24 y/o male - My results - PLEASE ADVISE

[_ANTON_]

New here. Hoping I could get some help. Been feeling less energetic over the last couple years. I'm 24 And have always had a hard time putting on weight. I'm currently sitting at about 175lb And roughly 10% to 12% bf And the highest I get no matter How much I eat and how hard I lift is around 182. Keep in mind that my diet is spotless and I'm working out 2 to 4 Times per week. I do work over 12 hr days (not physical) up to 6 days a week but I average around 7hrs of sleep per night.

Finally went to the doc and got my test checked.

Here are my results:

9am test (woke up at about 815)

Testosterone - 496
Free Testosterone - 95.2

Of course the Doctor says this is fine and I'm in the normal 250 to 1100 range that "applies to all men." But after looking at some of the averages per age in charts I found that I have the test level of a 60 year old. This seems low especially for a 24 year old male.

Still need to go get my full results because I believe they ran a full thyroid panel too. They gave me the test numbers over the phone.

Took a lot of test boosters like T3 from nxcare when I was younger And didn't cycle them properly. Also took SUS lmg before which I got a solid 12 lb gain from but I can never get the gsins to stay once I'm off. Its been over a year since I've taken anything other than zma, fish oil, and vitamin d.

At this point I'm looking for advice. considered testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) but wanted to get the full scoop on all options. What would you suggest?

I've always wanted to sit at 190 to 195 And 8%. Will I have to somehow hit 200 lbs to get the 190 to 195 to stay? I also want to make sure that my natural test levels could maintain the muscle if I'm off. Will pct ensure this?

I Have a mma/football/contact sports background that may play into my current readings. Any help would be appreciated

 

[MMA732]

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magnesium oil with zinc pilconate

 

[toco]

get lh and fsh tested. no such thing as test levels of an 60 or 80 yr old man. thats all bullshit so forget what u read abot that.


QUOTE=_ANTON_;3418690]New here. Hoping I could get some help. Been feeling less energetic over the last couple years. I'm 24 And have always had a hard time putting on weight. I'm currently sitting at about 175lb And roughly 10% to 12% bf And the highest I get no matter How much I eat and how hard I lift is around 182. Keep in mind that my diet is spotless and I'm working out 2 to 4 Times per week. I do work over 12 hr days (not physical) up to 6 days a week but I average around 7hrs of sleep per night.

Finally went to the doc and got my test checked.

Here are my results:

9am test (woke up at about 815)

Testosterone - 496
Free Testosterone - 95.2

Of course the Doctor says this is fine and I'm in the normal 250 to 1100 range that "applies to all men." But after looking at some of the averages per age in charts I found that I have the test level of a 60 year old. This seems low especially for a 24 year old male.

Still need to go get my full results because I believe they ran a full thyroid panel too. They gave me the test numbers over the phone.

Took a lot of test boosters like T3 from nxcare when I was younger And didn't cycle them properly. Also took SUS lmg before which I got a solid 12 lb gain from but I can never get the gsins to stay once I'm off. Its been over a year since I've taken anything other than zma, fish oil, and vitamin d.

At this point I'm looking for advice. considered testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) but wanted to get the full scoop on all options. What would you suggest?

I've always wanted to sit at 190 to 195 And 8%. Will I have to somehow hit 200 lbs to get the 190 to 195 to stay? I also want to make sure that my natural test levels could maintain the muscle if I'm off. Will pct ensure this?

I Have a mma/football/contact sports background that may play into my current readings. Any help would be appreciated[/QUOTE]

 

[_ANTON_]

cannot go wrong with the following:
Orbit Nutrition - Buy USP Labs PowerFULL For Cheap!
Orbit Nutrition - Buy PES Erase Pro Extremely Cheap
Orbit Nutrition - Buy Activate Xtreme At A Discount
magnesium oil with zinc pilconate

Thanks for the suggested supps. So I should stack these all together? That last one says it boosts test. Is it adding exogenous test? Or is it boosting natural test? My main concern is keeping the gains I make after I make them. All orals I have taken have been effective but afterwards the gains have been lost. This is most likely due to a rebound effect and having test drop lower than normal after having elevated levels. Even with post cycle therapy (pct). Any pct needed for this? Looking to put on and keep 15 lbs.

It seems like with supps or even a real cycle on the gear, you need to put on about twice the weight of what you want to keep. Since I've always been interested in lean gains And it hasn't stuck, should I focus on just big gains with high caloric intake then shred down to half of what I gained afterwards? I always go 175 to 190 then eventually right back to 175. It pisses me off.

 

[_ANTON_]

And is that 4th item. Magnesium oil with zinc pilconate something I should take with the other 3 as well? Any specific brand?

 

[_ANTON_]

Lh? Fsh? I'm still learning all of these acronyms. Can You Please spell it out for me? I want to be as knowledgeable as I can be.

 

[Megatron28]

get lh and fsh tested. No such thing as test levels of an 60 or 80 yr old man. Thats all bullshit so forget what u read abot that.

That's not true. Your natural testosterone levels peak in your 30's or 40's and then begin to decrease about 1% ever year.

 

[Megatron28]

Lh? Fsh? I'm still learning all of these acronyms. Can You Please spell it out for me? I want to be as knowledgeable as I can be.

Luteinizing Hormone and Follicle Stimulating Hormone. I think we gave you some info about them on the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) forum. Here is some reading for you. You aren't hypogonadism, but these will help you understand how it all works.

Chapter 253 ? THE TESTIS AND MALE SEXUAL FUNCTION

https://aace.com/files/hypo-gonadism.pdf

 

[MMA732]

Thanks for the suggested supps. So I should stack these all together? That last one says it boosts test. Is it adding exogenous test? Or is it boosting natural test? My main concern is keeping the gains I make after I make them. All orals I have taken have been effective but afterwards the gains have been lost. This is most likely due to a rebound effect and having test drop lower than normal after having elevated levels. Even with post cycle therapy (pct). Any pct needed for this? Looking to put on and keep 15 lbs.

It seems like with supps or even a real cycle on the gear, you need to put on about twice the weight of what you want to keep. Since I've always been interested in lean gains And it hasn't stuck, should I focus on just big gains with high caloric intake then shred down to half of what I gained afterwards? I always go 175 to 190 then eventually right back to 175. It pisses me off.

These supplements only boost natural endogenous testosterone levels. You may take all as a stack. As for the zinc and topical mag i recommend this Mahler's Aggressive Strength Recovery Oil | Mahler's Aggressive Strength if you cant afford it, go to swansons and get their mag oil and zinc.