2nd cycle recomendation (not for bulking)

[brolickant]

whats up guys? right now i am on my first cycle. in november or january i will be on a second cycle. originally i was going to be Test/Deca/ and Tren. but i was just told that would be a bad cycle.

so what do you guys think is a decent cycle?

 

[dialtone]

drop the tren, stick with test/deca for a second cycle.

 

[dedlift]

best cycle for any goal

any pharmaceutical test..500-750mg/week.

 

[roccodart440]

best cycle for any goal

any pharmaceutical test..500-750mg/week.

This is really some lousey advice on several levels.

1. It still isn't known what he is running now and at what amounts. Also, his stats and goals weren't stated

2. 500-750mg of test alone is awful light for a 2nd cycle especially considering the conservitive accepted norm for a 1st cycle is 500mg 10-12 weeks.

3. Most of the test I have run has been homebrewed. I have run pharma grade, underground labs and homebrew. All produce quality test. YOu just need to know your source.

Brolickant, What are you running right now? Aslo right off the bat I am going to tell you that I agree that deca/tren combo isn't somwthing you should do. I would stay away from both of them for a 2nd cycle. Lets see what you are doing now and take it from there. Also what is your goal of this 2nd cycle and what size are you now?

 

[brolickant]

well ive been told to just stick with test the first cycle, but i am on:
wk 1-12 Test Cyp 400mg per wk
wk 1-5 anabol/d-bol 30mg per day

i am just bulking with this cycle, so my next cycle i will be to cut down, and right now i am 218, 219

 

[dedlift]

it's a matter of opinion. If you aren't competeing,,I feel that even stacking is,to a point is overkill. I can cut or bulk on as low as 500 of test per week. as i get to know my body better, i use LESS steroids than I did when I started.with better or equal results. as for knowing your source...I'm sure most guys know who they buy from, but, I'm sure that OVERWHELMINGLY the majority of guys on here do not know where their drugs are produced. I would pick pharmaceutical grade steroids (assuming they are real) over homebrew, or UG labs anyday,even if I pay double.

 

[brolickant]

i get what you are saying. and thats what i am trying to do...get my body toa point where i can compete.

 

[Biggin]

Hey dedlift I am part of the majority and know exactly where and who my gear comes from. Ur statments and judgement of wording is a little off. Im sure the majority of members on here would agree as well. Ur advice is off as well. U givin it freely not knowin what this cat is doing or nothin. Not bustin ur balls just sayin when u speak things in that matter no for sure!!

 

[dialtone]

i like dedlifts advice. too many guys try to solely rely on gear to reach their goals and keep upping the doses instead of learning how their body reacts to workout/diet regimens. and i also agree that many guys dont know where the powder for their gear comes from, all most know is the web address. repping you dedlift.

 

[Biggin]

Just not reppin some of it. Nothin against it, just dont agree with some of it.

 

[Biggin]

dedlift, now that I think about it ur right and I am wrong.

 

[dedlift]

well, I see your side BIGGIN..just different experiences in the end which lead to varying opinions.cool

 

[Biggin]

I agree.

 

[hurtslikehell]

I know this don't have anything to do with the posted topic, but I started a thread and cannot get a response, so hopefully you guys can help me. Hey guys, what's up? I used to juice about four years ago, and am just now getting back into it.
I met this dude at my gym and he got me some UniVet test enanthate 250. He was also suppoed to get me some winstrol, but since I got the test, I haven't seen him and he will not answer his phone.
This is my third week on the test and this last injection is reallly worrying me. I injected 2cc's of test enanthate 4 days ago and I have had a large painful knot in my glute since the day after. It's not red or anything, just hurts to press. I am trying to figure out what it is...... I don't think that it's an abscess, but I'm not sure.
My first shot, three weeks ago, did the same thing in my other glute and I still have a small hard knot in that muscle, but it does not hurt.
My second shot I hit in my thigh, I had a great deal of pain for about three days, but no knots. I know a lot of people are against UniVet, but I'm getting good gains from it. So, what do you guys think?

 

[Biggin]

To take or not to take? Do u want knots in ur ass? Do u want gains? Personally I wouldnt want knots in my ass. I say trash it, re-up with a better brand, and keep a close eye on ur glute. If the pain persists and gets worse I would advice u go see a doc. Remember u shootin vet grade gear, not the cleanest. The only vet grade I shoot is Fort Dodge, and thats only twice a year yet clean for vet grade. U need to halt with that gear 3 times in a row sounds like to me. Usually twice would be sufficient.

 

[hurtslikehell]

I appreciate the advice, unfortunately that's the only dude I could get it from. The knot is the size of a jumbo egg. The big thing that i don't understand is it didn't knot up in my thigh, just hurt like hell. This knot in my glute is hurting very bad and hasn't decreased in size at all and the injection was 5 days ago. There is no redness or anything just a large painful knot. Does it sound like a abscess? Should I stick it with a pin and try to draw it out?

 

[Biggin]

No! U had better go to the E.R. and let a physcian check u out bro. Didnt know it was the size of a jumbo egg, U definitely got something going on without a doubt. I am not a doc bro, but that dont sound good. At all.

 

[roccodart440]

well ive been told to just stick with test the first cycle, but i am on:
wk 1-12 Test Cyp 400mg per wk
wk 1-5 anabol/d-bol 30mg per day

i am just bulking with this cycle, so my next cycle i will be to cut down, and right now i am 218, 219

I would add another 200mg per week of test and a cutting compound, maybe 2.