2nd Cycle Suggestions?

[Jiverson]

6"2, 228lb

Just finishing my first cycle, standard 12 week Test e 500mg a week, in first week of post cycle therapy (pct) now Started at 208lb. Saw decent strength gains etc. Felt however i could have handled a lot more of test due to little to no side effects, libido only slightly raised that normal etc but it was a good place to start and i am happy.

Just asking for suggestions for a good second cycle as i wanna start saving for it and do it properly and well. My first one i felt i could of made better gains as it was over the holiday/new year period and ended up partying a little bit although i behaved reasonably well. Was thinking maybe 10-12 weeks,750mg Test E and 600mg of Deca with dbols to start? any advice would be appreciated

 

[mac daddy]

Sup Jiverson,

I'm planning on running dbol for 4 weeks and 12 weeks of test at 600mg/week on my 2nd cycle. Planning on running test and tren on my 3rd cycle. Deca sounds like it has a few too many sides, I may try it at some point though. One of the vets should be able to help you with this.

 

[Jiverson]

no worries ill wait for one of them to reply, i feel i could handle a lot more than 600mg a week..been training for around 7 years

 

[Matthew121]

I did prop/dbol combo for my 2nd cycle.

 

[R1rider]

6"2, 228lb

Just finishing my first cycle, standard 12 week Test e 500mg a week, in first week of PCT now Started at 208lb. Saw decent strength gains etc. Felt however i could have handled a lot more of test due to little to no side effects, libido only slightly raised that normal etc but it was a good place to start and i am happy.

Just asking for suggestions for a good second cycle as i wanna start saving for it and do it properly and well. My first one i felt i could of made better gains as it was over the holiday/new year period and ended up partying a little bit although i behaved reasonably well. Was thinking maybe 10-12 weeks,750mg Test E and 600mg of Deca with dbols to start? any advice would be appreciated

slow your roll bro, do test and one more compound

go with 600mg test and 400mg deca. take it slow, no need to jump to 600mgs of deca especially since you have never run it before. test/deca/dbol will give you tons of bloat.

when do you plan on running this second cycle? how much time you taking off?

 

[Jiverson]

yea that sounds better. probubly around july/august...gonna take a good 15 weeks off. what would be a good cycle length for those 2 compounds?

 

[R1rider]

if you do decide to add the dbol go with 50mg/day for the first 4 weeks

weeks 1-16 test e 600mg
weeks 1-14 deca 400mg

you got your post cycle therapy (pct) planned? i would also recommend Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) throughout. make sure to have parmi or caber on hand for the deca sides

 

[Jiverson]

thats a long cycle, what are the advantages of running it that long compared to say 10-12 weeks?. I live in sydney not sure where to get hcg, do you inject it? always able to get post cycle therapy (pct) however.

 

[prophet]

some advantages to running it longer is you allow your body more time to adjust, and yourself more time to get used to how you need to eat and all that. the transitional period going unnaturally high test levels back to (hopefully) your natty test levels is the most crucial point, and how long you've been carrying that weight will play a factor.

you don't need to raise the dosage up. i don't know what your bodyfat is, but at 6'1 228 that's not that big, especially if your bf is in the mid teens. you don't need elevated test levels to maintain at all at that size (assuming your natty test isn't really low) and when you jump it up to 500mg/week it's going to be several times higher than it is naturally.... you don't even need to add the deca really. i'm not sure why everyone always wants to add more and more and try new compounds when they're not yet necessary.

what is your current body composition like? what are your goals? what is your diet like? how is your strength, what kind of iron are you moving on the big 3? where was your test, e2, free test, etc. before your cycle when you got bloodwork? lipids? how is your bp? etc.

these kinds of questions should be the ones that help you decide where to go after your first cycle.

 

[Bullseye Forever]

slow your roll bro, do test and one more compound

go with 600mg test and 400mg deca. take it slow, no need to jump to 600mgs of deca especially since you have never run it before. test/deca/dbol will give you tons of bloat.

when do you plan on running this second cycle? how much time you taking off?

I agree,if you got good gains with 500mg,there is absolutley no reason to jump to 750mg of test,for your second cycle i would go with maybe dbol or deca,or maybe just another test only cycle,i mean why not,maybe increase your test to 600mg and run it 14-16 weeks,or leave it at 500mg and run it a few weeks longer,no need in jumping into 3 compounds your 2nd time around,not good business,if it was me i would either runt test/dbol or test/deca

i ran 3 test only cycles before i added a second compound,because i had such good gains,no need to fix if it aint broken ya know

deca would be a nice addition,but a whole different animal than test,but its a mild 19-nor with different type of sides than test,and you need different ancillaries to deal with them,but at 400mg of deca,most people dont experience alot of sides maybe bloat,cause it blaots the fuck out of me at 500mg,but thank God i dont have prolactin induced gyno from it,at higher doses its more likely

dbol,would be my choice if you ran 2 compounds for your 2nd,run it for 4-5 weeks,and i would start at 30mg/ed,it will bloat the hell out of you lol but a nice kick start to test,but I wouldnt jump my test from 500mg to 750mg,stay at 500mg and no more than 600mg,just my .02

remember,slow and steady cycles wins the race,moderate doses included,you keep more of your gains that way

 

[dfeaton]

I agree with Rider & bullseye. If you had great gains at a lower dose why not stay with lower doses. More does not necessarily mean better.

I agree,if you got good gains with 500mg,there is absolutley no reason to jump to 750mg of test,for your second cycle i would go with maybe dbol or deca,or maybe just another test only cycle,i mean why not,maybe increase your test to 600mg and run it 14-16 weeks,or leave it at 500mg and run it a few weeks longer,no need in jumping into 3 compounds your 2nd time around,not good business,if it was me i would either runt test/dbol or test/deca

i ran 3 test only cycles before i added a second compound,because i had such good gains,no need to fix if it aint broken ya know

deca would be a nice addition,but a whole different animal than test,but its a mild 19-nor with different type of sides than test,and you need different ancillaries to deal with them,but at 400mg of deca,most people dont experience alot of sides maybe bloat,cause it blaots the fuck out of me at 500mg,but thank God i dont have prolactin induced gyno from it,at higher doses its more likely

dbol,would be my choice if you ran 2 compounds for your 2nd,run it for 4-5 weeks,and i would start at 30mg/ed,it will bloat the hell out of you lol but a nice kick start to test,but I wouldnt jump my test from 500mg to 750mg,stay at 500mg and no more than 600mg,just my .02

remember,slow and steady cycles wins the race,moderate doses included,you keep more of your gains that way

 

[R1rider]

thats a long cycle, what are the advantages of running it that long compared to say 10-12 weeks?. I live in sydney not sure where to get hcg, do you inject it? always able to get post cycle therapy (pct) however.

decca takes a long time to kick in. right around week 8 is the best time, you want to run it a little longer to get the most out of it.

plus a few extra weeks of test will help you avoid libido issues from the decca

yes you inject hcg, it will help jumpstart your nuts back, avoid some atrophy and help with recovery

 

[jadakiss]

i agree with all the vets if it ain't broken y fix it.