2nd cycle testosterone Propionate Anavar advice for grandpa

[vught]

ok. my friend i understand and am with you. i posted that i had some similiar gains off a test cycle and peeps called bullshit. i misunderstood what you said then. i thought you were saying you gained 20lb of hard muscle in 4 weeks.... but i do think that we,us older guys, can make great sustainable gains off a couple compounds only....i wish you the best and hope it works out for you.

Ok I appreciate that Rocko. Since were closer in age I certainly value your opinion. Have you had any experience with Tren yourself? I don't have to use it. I can administer in smaller doses but apparently from what I'm hearing I've reached my age threshhold regarding this product. I sure like the cutting prospects associated with it from what research I've done. I picked up some caber & prami for prolactin issues but I'm not set in stone on using it if it's that harsh of product. Thanx again.

 

[Cobra Strike]

Yeah after some research I read about the benefits of joint relief from Deca. My Aromasin is liquid form. I haven't used it just have it on hand but can switch it out with the A-dex. I was planning on getting this cycle underway in a week. My turnaround appears to be 3-4 weeks on product not on hand. Is there a cycle adjustment to get this thing underway while waiting for the Deca minus the Tren? I don't have a train to catch just curious. Also again curious as to the low 25mg ed suggestion on Anavar (var) . Have you had good results with that dosage? I'm wondering if it's to compensate for taking an oral for over 6 weeks as you mention 25 mg wk 1-12 in your post. Appreciate the feedback.

dont switch out your aromasin for adex...aromasin is the better of the two...as far as being to old for tren...im just saying you can use it if you want and you might be fine but for individuals your age bp and cholesterol levels are typically a problem and tren messes with both...its just a very harsh chemical on the body and I would prefer not seeing anything bad happen to you. Anavar (var) at 25mg would be pointless by the way. I understand the wait time and that sucks...you just have to pick...tren and start when you want and watch your body very close...or wait and get the deca

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

I understand & I'm not 100% on the Tren myself. I just have it & thought it would compliment a cutter cycle after completing the orals in 6 weeks to finish out the 12 week cycle. I am however curious as to why just 25 mg Anavar (var) ed. I see many who use this at 100mg ed. I thought I would just go with 50 mg ed but you seem to reason even less. Can you shed some light here? Thanx

Tren is such a strong compound you dont need anything else with it except test. No matter the dose of Anavar (var) you wont even be able to tell its working cause the tren will over-power it. The only reason i left it in the cycle is for joint support, at your age the huge strength increase will leave you prone to injury, Anavar (var) is one of the best AAS for increasing collagen synthesis. It is a therapuetic dose.

 

[Cobra Strike]

Tren is such a strong compound you dont need anything else with it except test. No matter the dose of Anavar (var) you wont even be able to tell its working cause the tren will over-power it. The only reason i left it in the cycle is for joint support, at your age the huge strength increase will leave you prone to injury, Anavar (var) is one of the best AAS for increasing collagen synthesis. It is a therapuetic dose.

thanks for explaining that det!!! I didnt know that...just learned something new

 

[vught]

Well I have some things to think about here. I appreciate everyones advice.

 

[rocko3927]

Ok I appreciate that Rocko. Since were closer in age I certainly value your opinion. Have you had any experience with Tren yourself? I don't have to use it. I can administer in smaller doses but apparently from what I'm hearing I've reached my age threshhold regarding this product. I sure like the cutting prospects associated with it from what research I've done. I picked up some caber & prami for prolactin issues but I'm not set in stone on using it if it's that harsh of product. Thanx again.

i am post cycle therapy (pct) right now but my last cycle i was running test prop and tren then added some eq. i ran a little longer than planned but to answer your question about tren, i fricken love it. i got strong and hard quick. i personaly don't buy into the whole roid rage but after 2+ months of tren i was getting angry pretty damn quick. never lost control and did anything stupid but looking back i can tell it had some effect on my mood and temper. take it slow and see how you respond. i believe you would like it. other peeps complain of vivid dreams and sleepless nights but just didn't happen to me.

 

[vught]

i am pct right now but my last cycle i was running test prop and tren then added some eq. i ran a little longer than planned but to answer your question about tren, i fricken love it. i got strong and hard quick. i personaly don't buy into the whole roid rage but after 2+ months of tren i was getting angry pretty damn quick. never lost control and did anything stupid but looking back i can tell it had some effect on my mood and temper. take it slow and see how you respond. i believe you would like it. other peeps complain of vivid dreams and sleepless nights but just didn't happen to me.

Well that's some encouraging information. Of course you have quite a bit of more cycles under your belt. I want to take heed to others advice so I'm thinking with Ace I can just drop it as it's a short ester & perhaps recover quickly from any adverse sides? I'm thinking I'm going to drop the orals except pct of course. Thanx again.

 

[frankzanefan]

Ya, the Deca is not a joint pain, it causes me pain at pin site. like Proprinate. Seems to last 2-3 days and just annoys the shit out of me.

I use a 1.5 inch 22 gauge to pin. But man my ass hurts like i just left an all male review.

 

[vught]

Ya, the Deca is not a joint pain, it causes me pain at pin site. like Proprinate. Seems to last 2-3 days and just annoys the shit out of me.

I use a 1.5 inch 22 gauge to pin. But man my ass hurts like i just left an all male review.

I hear ya thanks for clarifying. Cobra Strike mentioned Aromasin ed at 12.5 mg I have it on hand actually 2 vials 30ml 25mg/ml so apparently at 12.5 mg per dose one vial should provide 60 applications. My question is using the syringe supplied by our friendly lion is 12.5 the equivalent to 3/4 cc as noted on the backside of said syringe? I know this sounds stupid but humor me if ya will. Thanx

 

[nate212]

I hear ya thanks for clarifying. Cobra Strike mentioned Aromasin ed at 12.5 mg I have it on hand actually 2 vials 30ml 25mg/ml so apparently at 12.5 mg per dose one vial should provide 60 applications. My question is using the syringe supplied by our friendly lion is 12.5 the equivalent to 3/4 cc as noted on the backside of said syringe? I know this sounds stupid but humor me if ya will. Thanx

At a concentration of 25mg/1ml 1/2ml or .5cc or .5ml is 12.5 mg.

 

[vught]

At a concentration of 25mg/1ml 1/2ml or .5cc or .5ml is 12.5 mg.

Wow that's a quick response thanx Nate.