2nd cycle what do you's think?

[andy1991]

My diet goes something like this at the moment. I think its roughly 3000cals

Meal 1: 100grams of oats with milk and razins. 4 egg whites with 2 whole eggs scrambled

Meal 2: 1 grilled chicken breast 2 medium sized baked potatoes with sour cream.

Meal 3: 4 slices whole meal bread, two tins tuna, 4 slices low fat cheese. (Tuna sandwhiches.)

Meal 4: 150 grams of pasta and steak.

Meal 5: Protein shake and banana.

Meal 6: Grilled fish and half a cup of rice. Or sometimes steak or roast beef.

Meal 7: 250grams cottage cheese.

And a handful of non salted almonds sometime during the day for essential fats

 

[redsoxnation1988]

heyy you said your 5`7 at about 180lbs ?? ..... thts not bad for your height ... but what is your bodyfat % looking like ? ... at 180 with a 5`7 frame is pretty big compared to any average 5`7 guy .... but either way .... your not looking like a bloated mess are yaa ?? are you at least lean and toned ... or are you lookin madd smooth holding a bunch of water ?? ..... remember one thing though my friend .... like lee haney once said "its quality over quantity" .. but you should really do some research and learn the aspects of diet first before trying to run or mix any heavy

Yer I have a good idea about diet I study nutrtion I know how to eat. I'm around 14% roughly. Not too bloated but I could be leaner. And yer i am pretty short kinda have a stocky type look.

yeaa your the same height as me ..... but anyways if you wanna do steroids its all up to you bro .... who am i in a bb forum to tell you not to do steroids .....but id say stay off the gear for a bit and try dieting, training as heavy as you can and also have plenty of rest ..... train heavy with all basic compound movements ... squats, deadlifts, benchpress etc etc etc .. you wanna take your body to you full natural genetic potential before considering using gear ...... just eat and train like an ANIMAL
later on if you consider taking more gear ... since youve allready cycled in the past.. take a basic test, deca, dbol cycle for 8 to 12 weeks .... that should get you another good solid 20 lbs right there

EAT, SLEEP AND TRAIN

 

[andy1991]

yeaa your the same height as me ..... but anyways if you wanna do steroids its all up to you bro .... who am i in a bb forum to tell you not to do steroids .....but id say stay off the gear for a bit and try dieting, training as heavy as you can and also have plenty of rest ..... train heavy with all basic compound movements ... squats, deadlifts, benchpress etc etc etc .. you wanna take your body to you full natural genetic potential before considering using gear ...... just eat and train like an ANIMAL
later on if you consider taking more gear ... since youve allready cycled in the past.. take a basic test, deca, dbol cycle for 8 to 12 weeks .... that should get you another good solid 20 lbs right there

EAT, SLEEP AND TRAIN

Yer cheers man, thanks for the advice. What do you think of my diet?

 

[redsoxnation1988]

Yer cheers man, thanks for the advice. What do you think of my diet?

looks good to me .... but diet all depends on what your trying to do ... theres no really such thing as a clean bulk ..... if you really wanna bulk you need calories to gain weight and muscle .... and eating clean is not gonna get you all the calories you need .... if your trying to bulk .. dont be afraid to eat garbage once in while ... such as pizza, mcdonalds, chinese food etc etc etc .... eating junk here and there is gonna help you get those extra calories to gain some more muscle ..... just dont over indulge on garbage or else your gonna gain lots of fat wich is not what you wanna do .... but dont be scared of hitting up MCds or wendys once in a while ..... it all depends on what you wanna do ... if you wanna bulk you need more calories ... you trying to get lean and cut .. you drop your calories .... allways remember that theres no such fuckin thing as getting hugeee and cut at the same time .....

 

[andy1991]

yer mate i throw in the cheat meals once a week or so but yer

 

[ezred]

Dude. There are so many people that use gear at a much younger age than me stop making it out as if it's so bad. Arnold won the mr universe at 19 was taking stuff when he was 15.

it's hilarious when young kids bring up guys like arnold, cutler, etc. as a reason why no one should tell them it is stupid to start so young.

there are several professions where people get put on gear at a young age. most of them have guys in their 30's who look big and strong on the outside, but on the inside these guys have the bodies of 55 year olds.

pro bodybuilders that have a lot of success i guarantee you spend a lot of money on health care over the course of their lives. arnold had heart surgeries recently didn't he?

these guys that do gear all their lives.... they sit at 30-something and are pretty unhealthy on the inside, even though they look like beasts on the outside.

and really, most people that have that kind of potential in their future, are getting coached and pushed along from the time they are in their teens because that is what it takes.

if you're 5'7 and are lean and toned and 180, and show people pictures, i bet you'd get a different response. just a hunch though.

the whole "arnold has been on stuff since he was 15!" argument back though, *in my honest opinion* is a show of immaturity.

 

[andy1991]

it's hilarious when young kids bring up guys like arnold, cutler, etc. as a reason why no one should tell them it is stupid to start so young.

there are several professions where people get put on gear at a young age. most of them have guys in their 30's who look big and strong on the outside, but on the inside these guys have the bodies of 55 year olds.

pro bodybuilders that have a lot of success i guarantee you spend a lot of money on health care over the course of their lives. arnold had heart surgeries recently didn't he?

these guys that do gear all their lives.... they sit at 30-something and are pretty unhealthy on the inside, even though they look like beasts on the outside.

and really, most people that have that kind of potential in their future, are getting coached and pushed along from the time they are in their teens because that is what it takes.

if you're 5'7 and are lean and toned and 180, and show people pictures, i bet you'd get a different response. just a hunch though.

the whole "arnold has been on stuff since he was 15!" argument back though, *in my honest opinion* is a show of immaturity.

Im 22. i dont care what happens when im 50 or 60. i didnt say i was lean. im 180 at around 15% bf. i said i could be leaner but i want to keep bulking.

 

[ezred]

Im 22. i dont care what happens when im 50 or 60. i didnt say i was lean. im 180 at around 15% bf. i said i could be leaner but i want to keep bulking.

yeah that's obvious. it's unimaginably stupid as well.

they should just close and delete this thread. fuck'n retarded.

good luck son. take test/tren/deca with dbol and drol. 100mg's each of those compounds ed. do that for about a year straight. you'll get huge bro. fuck'n huge!

 

[UserAt204]

Exactly our point. You are to immature to care what happens later in life and this is why we won't give you advice at that age. Grow up a little. You came here for advice but you don't want to hear the truth.

 

[andy1991]

are you saying to take this from your previous experience of being shut down on that cycle? idiot.

 

[UserAt204]

Another jackass know it all little tike with his head up his ass. You sir have issues

 

[UserAt204]

Let's start a thread to count down the days til Andy is banned.

 

[Cobra Strike]

Let's start a thread to count down the days til Andy is banned.

Dammit!!!! See all the good shit happens when Im gone...wtf

 

[andy1991]

Ey Ezered or whatever your name is I'm mirin writing below your post. Your just cut cause you wish you took gear earlier. Mate your not cut out to be a champion.

 

[Cobra Strike]

Ey Ezered or whatever your name is I'm mirin writing below your post. Your just cut cause you wish you took gear earlier. Mate your not cut out to be a champion.

Bro...you dont even know what your talking about...you dont even know anything about ez...

first of all ez is a fucking champion already...second he doesnt want to be the kind of champion your dreaming about...

I did say dreaming right?? and as a matter of fact...I would say that everyone I met on this board knows better than to think they are the next arnold or cutler...do you have any idea what it takes to be at that level??? Its a whole lot more than just gear bro

 

[andy1991]

I'll be a better champ then both of y'all. 22 and you think I'm too young. Who are you to tell me I'm too young for aas?

 

[Cobra Strike]

I'll be a better champ then both of y'all. 22 and you think I'm too young. Who are you to tell me I'm too young for aas?

hahaha I hate dreamers

 

[Cobra Strike]

Go ahead and enlarge all your organs...enlarge your left ventricle...get heart surgery...get on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) for the rest of your life...its your life and you dont need us so why do you keep posting...just end this embarrasing charade now

 

[andy1991]

Jokes on you. IM AN OCTOPUS!!

 

[ezred]

cobra, watch out how you talk to andy.... he's a future multiple olympia winner..... treat him like shit now and he might not sign your gynoboobs in 10 years when you go to the arnold classic to finally get a chance to meet him and see his jaw dropping, awe inspiring, pussy melting physique up close and in person for the first time.

i'm outtie.

andy figured me out. he exposed the true me.

the reason i'm a dick is because i wish i would've got into gear earlier and i'm bitter at the world.

jeez, i'm so transparent