2nd Cycle

[wannagethuge2007]

Ok all I am going to start my second cycle. The first cycle I did was 500mg Test-E/week
D-Bol 40mg ed and a post cycle therapy (pct) of Clomid and Nolva. Now I only did 4 weeks due to some circumstances.

Well I am ready to go again and want to get some thoughts on this 2nd cycle:

Cycle Length: 10 weeks

Cycle Layout:
Weeks 1-10 500 mg GP Test Enanth 250 per week.
Weeks 1-10 250 mg GP Deca250 per week
Weeks 1-6 40 mg GP Methan 10 per day
Weeks 1-10 .5 mg GP Anastrozole per day (continued for 10 days after cycle)

With a post cycle therapy (pct) of wks 12-15
Nolva 20/20/10/10
Clomid 50/50/50/50

The above is a predesigned stack from naps-gear.net

All opinions are welcome

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Deca is too low.....

 

[wannagethuge2007]

What's up bro,

Also thought Deca was to low I was thinking more like 500mg/week

 

[wannagethuge2007]

Would this be a better cycle:

Wk 1-11 Test Enanthate/Cypionate 400-500mg each week
Wk 1-10 Deca Durabolin 300-400mg each week
Wk 1-16 Nolvadex 20mg each day
Wk 13-16 Clomid

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

id go 500 on the test, 400 on the deca.

no need for NOLVA thoughout, use aromasin @ 12.5mg ED.

also you should run the test for 15 and the deca for 13 weeks. clomid starts 2 weeks after last T inject. and i would get some HCG too

 

[wannagethuge2007]

Ok How about this cycle. I have read a lot of great things about Sust and Deca so I can't wait to start.

1-4 D-bol 30mg/week
1-15 Sust 500mg/week
1-13 Deca 400mg/week
1-4, 6-9, 11-14 HCG 1000iu/week
1-15 aromasin 12.5mg ED
16-18 HCG 1000iu EOD
19-21 Clomid 50/50/50/50
19-21 Nolva 20/20/10/10

All opinions are welcome

Can you also pin the HCG in the same place as your aas or should you use a different location

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

looks perfect. i would think about running dbol up to 6 weeks, you can play that by ear.

PCT starts week 19 though-21 days after sust inject.

during those 21 days you should increase your HCG to 500 ED or 1000 EOD.

HCG can be pinned either way, sub-Q or IM, its more effective sub-Q.

 

[wannagethuge2007]

What size needles should i get for the HCG could i just use the ones I woould use for the the aas??

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

if you pin sub-q you would use insulin needles. IM would be regular ones.

 

[wannagethuge2007]

Is HCG a must to run while on a Sust and Deca cycle or just recommended? Is it's main use to keep your nuts from reducing in size to dramactically because of the Sust and Deca.

 

[TheFi5thElement]

I've never used HCG coming off a cycle that low, and have always been able to keep 80% of my gains. I just use clomids, arimidex while I'm on due to the fact that I'm very sensitive to estrogen.

 

[wannagethuge2007]

I was just wondering. Would prefer not to have to stick myself more than I already do. LOL

 

[Mr. Humdiddly]

Prami would be a good addition.

 

[RA64]

Like the Oak said, keep your Test higher than you Deca.
I do HCG SQ, in the abdomen, using a 31g slin pin, painless.

 

[Italiano SPO]

id go 500 on the test, 400 on the deca.

no need for NOLVA thoughout, use aromasin @ 12.5mg ED.

also you should run the test for 15 and the deca for 13 weeks. clomid starts 2 weeks after last T inject. and i would get some HCG too

I'm with Oak on this one +1

 

[Italiano SPO]

Prami would be a good addition.

Agreed. It would be a certainty if I were running this cycle.

 

[wannagethuge2007]

Thanks for all the insight

 

[wannagethuge2007]

What would the dosage be of the prami and when would you use it during or after. Also has anyone ever used Liquid Clomi and Liquid Tomex from RUI?? Are these better than tablets due to liquid being absobed faster. I also have Liquid Letro onhand just in case any major gyno happens!

 

[Conrad415]

Ok How about this cycle. I have read a lot of great things about Sust and Deca so I can't wait to start.

1-4 D-bol 30mg/week
1-15 Sust 500mg/week
1-13 Deca 400mg/week
1-4, 6-9, 11-14 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 1000iu/week
1-15 aromasin 12.5mg ED
16-18 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 1000iu EOD
19-21 Clomid 50/50/50/50
19-21 Nolva 20/20/10/10

All opinions are welcome

Can you also pin the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) in the same place as your aas or should you use a different location

You will like the GP gear. Stuff is painless and the orals are oustanding.

I would split the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) to 250 iu x 3 a week. I am not a fan of running sus and deca. I would much rather opt for test e and deca.

When are you starting this cycle?

 

[wannagethuge2007]

I plan on starting by the 1st of Dec or by the New Year! Gotta save up some dough plus I like to get my shit together and purchase a little here and there and do some research on gear I have not used before or do not know a lot about!!

What is it about Sus that you do not like???