3 Vials of Tren Ace... 3 Vials of NPP .... Dump them???

[_Romeo_]

I have 3 vials of tren Ace from one particular source, back when everyone was raving about how good their shit was... I also have another 3 vials of NPP from another source, same story, they were the shit, then their reputation became shit.

i never touched any of the vials as i ended up doing a Test/Tren cycle from a different source... is there a way to verify if any of these vials are legit and not underdosed)? i know i can get a labmax kit, but that won't tell me if the oil is contaminated or how underdosed it is, correct?

I just hate losing a drop of oil, so 6 vials of juice down the drain would probably give me nightmares worse than the ones i had on Tren.

 

[halfwit]

Not without a mass spec done. As long as it's not the sterility that you're concerned with (you can still filter it if it is), you can always pin it and see for yourself. Results are pretty much how I judge the potency, which is unfortunately not something that I can use to come to a number - but it works for stuff other than testosterone IME.

My .02c

 

[_Romeo_]

Not without a mass spec done. As long as it's not the sterility that you're concerned with (you can still filter it if it is), you can always pin it and see for yourself. Results are pretty much how I judge the potency, which is unfortunately not something that I can use to come to a number - but it works for stuff other than testosterone IME.

My .02c

appreciate the feedback... so it all comes down how i feel when i pin it. Ok, another question, is there such a thing as a 2 year rule as far as the expatriation of a compound? i had purchased all of these vials about 2 years ago.

 

[Hypnotix]

appreciate the feedback... so it all comes down how i feel when i pin it. Ok, another question, is there such a thing as a 2 year rule as far as the expatriation of a compound? i had purchased all of these vials about 2 years ago.

Generally if they have been stored in a dark, semi-cool, dry area.. they'll last much much longer than 2 years.

Even when they begin to degrade they just lose their potency slowly, not all at once

 

[Teutonic]

Run that --it bro.......highly un likely it ll kill you

 

[Milton]

So the only way to test it is to see how you feel after a pin? damn. there must be a safe way.

 

[_Romeo_]

So the only way to test it is to see how you feel after a pin? damn. there must be a safe way.

it f***g sucks i know.. but halfwit i think mentioned that the only to find out for sure is through a mass spec.

I am gonna end up ordering from a different source and consider my 6 vials a loss ... I hate UGL's and their f****g games... every time i gotta run a cycle, it takes forever to do my homework on a source and come the following cycle, that source is already burnt.

 

[Teutonic]

If I can be of help by offering to put my ass literally on the line we could use my ass spectrometer as in mail me the gear and I ll report back with re to-
pip
infections
gains
sides to include my death
etc ?

It s the least I, as a staff member can offer to assist a member whose having doubt s w re to wether or not a ugl s product s were good or not.
No problem at all....

jkg-it is lame but you cant be swayed as to wether or not a ugl s good or not w-o actually jumping in as to see what both the customer service and quality of the gear is as it is a very competitive market and for every good post there will be 2 bad as people as a rule nowadays are prone to whining bitching over the littlest things while reserving praise when it s deserved. IE--Most people suck.

Another facet of todays society of instant gratification and entitlement mentality that burns my ass. That's why I like working in some of the less developed hell holes I do my thing in...people are grateful for a good meal, a sunny day and an act of kindness is truelly appreciated.
(Aint no fat..really fat poor people in Mex, Paraguay, Brazil, Somalia etc. to name a few. Only western society has provided such a system of excess that our poor are the most f k n obese and suffer from diabetes and maladies from over consumption ???!!! Now whats wrong with this picture. And they retain the right to vote too.....sorry..The German fought his way past my mental cage...he s only allowed out when working...)

 

[DucBase]

Does anyone know where a guy could get the mass spec analysis done? Maybe medical universities would have that equipment? I've got some bunk gear that came from a pharmacy and I'd love to bust them...even if it costs me a lot of $.

 

[Teutonic]

Goood question...HW the Scientist exdrodinaire will know...my doc would to but I m not as full of vinegar as when younger DB...but please go get them fuckers...tired of us lay people getting dumped on...

 

[halfwit]

Does anyone know where a guy could get the mass spec analysis done? Maybe medical universities would have that equipment? I've got some bunk gear that came from a pharmacy and I'd love to bust them...even if it costs me a lot of $.

I know a few guys that were trying to do this. The profiles that mass spec uses to compare to are controlled by the DEA, so it's not easily done - in this country at least. (Profile is like a "fingerprint" for each chemical in a compound)

It's just so much easier to find a couple labs that you trust and stick with them. I occasionally do still try out a new lab here and there if a buddy says it's amazing - but I still only place a minimum order as I only spend that which I'm comfortable losing.

I've found that if a UGL cheaps out on test, it's likely that the rest is garbage. Thankfully we can at least get bloods for test. There are also a few sides that you'll get to know when you're on certain AAS. Tren piss (can't mistake the smell!), deca joint love, masteron's impact on my skin (dries and makes it seem thinner), SD and the burps, var and the gawd awful ab pumps, etc.

 

[DucBase]

Hmm. Maybe not an avenue worth exploring.

My current TRT clinic is insisting I use this compounding pharmacy, but their test is bunk. I'm pissed that I've been hypo for the last 6 months and paying a bunch of $ for it as well. It took me way to long to figure out what was happening as I always run out and come in for shots a couple of times before the BW is done. The stuff they were giving me at the clinic was good, so the tests never showed anything way off. Stuff causes me to get nasty sores all over as well.

I decided to give up the booze hear recently and that is probably just making me more of a vengeful asshole than I usually am.

 

[halfwit]

Hmm. Maybe not an avenue worth exploring.

My current TRT clinic is insisting I use this compounding pharmacy, but their test is bunk. I'm pissed that I've been hypo for the last 6 months and paying a bunch of $ for it as well. It took me way to long to figure out what was happening as I always run out and come in for shots a couple of times before the BW is done. The stuff they were giving me at the clinic was good, so the tests never showed anything way off. Stuff causes me to get nasty sores all over as well.

I decided to give up the booze hear recently and that is probably just making me more of a vengeful asshole than I usually am.

Get their dispensary license revoked. I'd be BEYOND PISSED if I was paying an actual pharmacy for test, and they're selling me shit. All you need are consistent labs showing such and a phone call to the right folks.

 

[DucBase]

My last labs were the first ones to be really out of whack. 500ish on 250mg weekly dose. The two prior to that were showing 800ish total, but I think that's because I was going in and getting injected with real test for the 2 weeks prior. It's def bunk gear. I don't get why a real pharmacy would underdose something as cheap as test. I found a guy online who is using the same place and having the same results...hoping to see some numbers from him soon.

Once I saw the pattern I felt like a moron. I've been feeling like shit for 6 months now...I just never considered that pharmacy stuff would be fake or underdosed.

 

[halfwit]

My last labs were the first ones to be really out of whack. 500ish on 250mg weekly dose. The two prior to that were showing 800ish total, but I think that's because I was going in and getting injected with real test for the 2 weeks prior. It's def bunk gear. I don't get why a real pharmacy would underdose something as cheap as test. I found a guy online who is using the same place and having the same results...hoping to see some numbers from him soon.

Once I saw the pattern I felt like a moron. I've been feeling like shit for 6 months now...I just never considered that pharmacy stuff would be fake or underdosed.

I hope your doc isn't getting a kick back as he's the one that told you to go there. Yeah, it makes no sense to me either; if you have a license, importing raws is STUPID cheap. They're probably trimming off the top to sell to the black market. Gay.

 

[Teutonic]

I knew he d know...

 

[appleton111]

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[SoHo]

as long as its sterile, pull your fuckin pants down and stick that shit into your quad like a man and youll know how good it is within a week

 

[oldmusclemike]

IWILL TAKE THEM OFF YOUR HANDS. GIVE ME ONE AND I'LL TELL YOU HOW IT IS.

Oh, I am serious! Do not dump them. Pm me and tell me something. I think I know what lab

 

[accordio]

I have 3 vials of tren Ace from one particular source, back when everyone was raving about how good their shit was... I also have another 3 vials of NPP from another source, same story, they were the shit, then their reputation became shit.

i never touched any of the vials as i ended up doing a Test/Tren cycle from a different source... is there a way to verify if any of these vials are legit and not underdosed)? i know i can get a labmax kit, but that won't tell me if the oil is contaminated or how underdosed it is, correct?

I just hate losing a drop of oil, so 6 vials of juice down the drain would probably give me nightmares worse than the ones i had on Tren.

if you get wrong colors with labmax, then you know that it is contaminated. Right color always means that you have good gear but you do not know the %

but look at the science if you keep dissolving it means that there would be less and less hormone per volume so less and less fluorescence coming out.

If you get bright fluorescence it would mean that there is rather more hormone than less