30y old, 263ng/dl, 1m of Testogel 50mg->Nebido. How are your Test levels on Nebido?
Wonder what your Test Peak Levels / normal levels are while on Nebido?
Hello.
I'm new here. Im 30 years old and think I finally get the help I need.
When i was 24 I had my first suspicions of low T so I went to a doc. He told me 250 is normal and in the range (fuking lol - my new doctor was just shaking his head in disbelief). So... a few years I didn't do anything. I got more and more tired. Now... I think last time I really went out with friends is maybe once every 6 month. I have zero Energy, zero Motivation, im depressed and lethargic and everything seems to be a hassle.
4 Months ago I went to a doctor who said I'm too low. I decided to start Clomid/Clomiphen first because I read that it might restart natural production in some cases. I went from 263 to 715 but my Estradiol also increased up to 107 (!) and even arimidex didnt help AT ALL (although i had doses up to 0,5/1mg daily at the end - im happy im off this shit)
due to this i felt a LITTLE bit better, but not by much, because the negative sides were blocking the good effects and the high estradiol made me emotional and made me gain weight - it seemed to be impossible to drop fat although I went to the gym every 2 days - i then read that its due to clomid/arimidex.
NOW:
I've searched for a new doc who is also a lot in medical journals and seems to be much better.
I was there today. He now gave me 50mg Testogel and told me to use it for 1month, then we have another Appointment and he will get me on Nebido, because he said its the "Gold Standard" right now and doesnt give me such bad Emotional Rollercoasters like the other stuff. Plus .... after some time and loading phase and the "booster" ill be able to maintain at 1 shot every 3 months - sounds good.
I've pretty much read almost every Nebido Thread in this Forum, but unfortunately a lot of people don't mention their bloodwork.
My "Goal" would be firstly obviously to get better and stop feeling like shit. But later I would like to be around 1000ng/dl because I hope to make good gains in the gym with a 4 times higher T-Level than before. Will I make good gains ?
If not - I heard about a lot of people who blast&cruise with Nebido, so I was wondering if its okay to do 1-2cycles a year and TRT with Nebido the rest of the year. I told myself that I never wanted to use steroids for BB Purposes because I was afraid of being infertile etc - but now that its inevitable anyhow. Might as well get aesthetic. After 8 years of busting my ass in the gym and 2 years of counting every single calorie (yet all my buddies who ate crap made MUCH more gains and were MUCH more ripped)
Thoughts? Greets
(Pls tell me if you need any translations as the tests are in german, but i think most values are called almost the same
Note.: yes i have 281ng/dl here, but in another one I had 263 and 261)
Wonder what your Test Peak Levels / normal levels are while on Nebido?
Hello.
I'm new here. Im 30 years old and think I finally get the help I need.
When i was 24 I had my first suspicions of low T so I went to a doc. He told me 250 is normal and in the range (fuking lol - my new doctor was just shaking his head in disbelief). So... a few years I didn't do anything. I got more and more tired. Now... I think last time I really went out with friends is maybe once every 6 month. I have zero Energy, zero Motivation, im depressed and lethargic and everything seems to be a hassle.
4 Months ago I went to a doctor who said I'm too low. I decided to start Clomid/Clomiphen first because I read that it might restart natural production in some cases. I went from 263 to 715 but my Estradiol also increased up to 107 (!) and even arimidex didnt help AT ALL (although i had doses up to 0,5/1mg daily at the end - im happy im off this shit)
due to this i felt a LITTLE bit better, but not by much, because the negative sides were blocking the good effects and the high estradiol made me emotional and made me gain weight - it seemed to be impossible to drop fat although I went to the gym every 2 days - i then read that its due to clomid/arimidex.
NOW:
I've searched for a new doc who is also a lot in medical journals and seems to be much better.
I was there today. He now gave me 50mg Testogel and told me to use it for 1month, then we have another Appointment and he will get me on Nebido, because he said its the "Gold Standard" right now and doesnt give me such bad Emotional Rollercoasters like the other stuff. Plus .... after some time and loading phase and the "booster" ill be able to maintain at 1 shot every 3 months - sounds good.
I've pretty much read almost every Nebido Thread in this Forum, but unfortunately a lot of people don't mention their bloodwork.
My "Goal" would be firstly obviously to get better and stop feeling like shit. But later I would like to be around 1000ng/dl because I hope to make good gains in the gym with a 4 times higher T-Level than before. Will I make good gains ?
If not - I heard about a lot of people who blast&cruise with Nebido, so I was wondering if its okay to do 1-2cycles a year and TRT with Nebido the rest of the year. I told myself that I never wanted to use steroids for BB Purposes because I was afraid of being infertile etc - but now that its inevitable anyhow. Might as well get aesthetic. After 8 years of busting my ass in the gym and 2 years of counting every single calorie (yet all my buddies who ate crap made MUCH more gains and were MUCH more ripped)
Thoughts? Greets
(Pls tell me if you need any translations as the tests are in german, but i think most values are called almost the same
Note.: yes i have 281ng/dl here, but in another one I had 263 and 261)
