40+ Only Testosteron and Arimidex use
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Milton
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Welcome! be sure to read up here too http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...ycling-beginners-guide-safe-androgen-use.html
Dear Milton,
Thank you for answer.
I read the guide.
But my age is 42. I worry about that.
blakey
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Yes use an ai I like adex the best .
And I would extend the cycle a few weeks 12 isn't very long considereding test cyp will take 3 to 4 weeks to build up and start working if you want to run a smaller cycle best stick to test prop and your age shouldn't be to much of a factor as long as your healthy and have been training prior to cycling.
You haven't mentioned pct diet or training so hopefully you have these in order we need more stats to give you better advice .
And I would extend the cycle a few weeks 12 isn't very long considereding test cyp will take 3 to 4 weeks to build up and start working if you want to run a smaller cycle best stick to test prop and your age shouldn't be to much of a factor as long as your healthy and have been training prior to cycling.
You haven't mentioned pct diet or training so hopefully you have these in order we need more stats to give you better advice .
High estrogen level is beneficial for muscle.
Then using Arimidex is not right.
Did I get right ?
PortgasDAce
New member
High estrogen is beneficial for muscle and mostly water retention but it can cause gynecomastia to sensitive people, better to use a little bit of arimidex always
)High estrogen is beneficial for muscle and mostly water retention but it can cause gynecomastia to sensitive people, better to use a little bit of arimidex always
Thank you for answer
Milton
Administrator
Dear RealX11,
good advice posted here for you, hope it works out, please keep us posted.
warm regards
Roush
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IF you were just worried about performance (and not worried about gyno) , adex is actually a performance decreaser, thats why some power lifters won't take an AI even when on a heavy cycle (but they are not always worried about having bitch tits and a big round puffy face). some guys are pretty sensitive to estrogen though and will have lots of negative sides if it gets too high, gyno being one of those, so its best just to take a moderate dose, get bloods, and adjust where needed.
If you were a bodybuilder prepping for a show and wanting to shed all bloat and water , then you would up your AI big time (you don't care about performance, strength or putting on size at this point) and dry out
oldmusclemike
Well-known member
This ^^^^ right on.
Hi and welcome to the board
I am a BB (old timer lol) and an ectomorph. I am prone to Gyno and have some existing mostly from not using an AI. This started many years ago when we didn't have internet a the science behind the safe usage of AAS.
As Roush told you , you should be using an AI (Adex for me) at the beginning of a Test cycle. However please get to know the side effects of high and low Estradiol (E2). There are many :
Low Estrogen Side Effects:
-Anxiety
-Loss of appetite
- Osteoporosis (weakened bones) ; (long-term low levels)
- Poor sex drive
- Fatigue
- Lethargy
- Skin quality diminishes
- Depression
- Poor sense of wellbeing & poor quality of life
High Estrogen Side Effects:
- Gynecomastia
- Anxiety & panic attacks
- Depression
- Erectile dysfunction
- Water retention
- High blood pressure
- Loss of balance/instability/dizziness
- Respiratory related concerns
- Irritability
- Low libido
- Insomnia
- Prostate related issues
- Crying like a little girl and being emotional all the time
Read up on all our sticky posts found where you came in to start your thread!
Good luck
juced_porkchop
Moderator
no using dex is right. you want to keep your estrogen within normal range. havign high estrogen sure might fill in more water etc. but its not worth the side effect IMO, specially when the muscle is really coming from the test part of it all.
I always rec an AI like dex on cycles like this.
I do agree having it on higher end could be good, if you dont feel sides with that, but still should keep it in range. .25mg eod, if you need more then 0.5mg eod. but i would start on lower end and might be all you need. i would atleast do that.
good luck
ohh nd get blood work before you take anything. always good to know. and by blood work i mean ask to check your hormones AND the other regular other stuff. you have to ask for that test. tell them you think you have low T because of libido, mood and energy issues and you want to check it out. this way you will know where you are at. and also for all you know you should already be on hrt and atleast you will now know and can decide what to do.
Roush
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i would just point out that "Normal Range" that you find on a blood test is generally calculated for 'normal/natural' guys with natural "normal range" testosterone levels , the normal e2 range does not calculate for supra-physiolgical levels of test, its only calculated based on natty test levels.
so if a normal range for test levels is 300-900ngdl , then the Estrogen range is correlated with these values. BUT if your a guy running gear and your test is at 4500ngdl , then the normal range value of E is not going correlate very well. You'll not get an accurate test/estrogen ratio.
to clarify, just saying the 'normal range' of E on a blood test is calculated as normal for natty guys. things can be a bit higher and out of the top end of the range if your blasting test, as the range needs to be higher for supra-physiological doses of test.
because more test = more estrogen, but your test/estrogen ratio could still be right on the money and completely 'normal',, even though you may test outside the normal range
Roush
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Adex is short for "arimidex" , its the same drug. however, there are two different mainline AIs used, two totally different drugs. Aromasin and Arimidex. Both inhibit aromatization of test to estrogen. either one would be fine.
sometimes the drugs are called by their 'brand' name as well, example. arimidex = anastrozole
sometimes the drugs are called by their 'brand' name as well, example. arimidex = anastrozole
Dear Roush,
Thank you very much for the explanation.
I have another drug called "Adex" in my research, And its active substance is different.
Those who do not know the abbreviations can make mistakes. ( like me )
Again Thank you very very much
