4th bulk cycle advice needed! PLZ!

[Hlbodied]

This will be my 4th cycle. Looking to BULK LIKE CRAZY. Just did a low carb diet and lost some weight after doing the first 3. 5"9", 196, 15% bf. Ive stocked up on some different anabolics and could go one of many different ways. Just looking to put on the most amount of size without wasting money. I've got a lot of test e and only ONE vial of the following : deca, tren e, eq, and a little dbol left over from last cycle. I know I definitely shouldn't take all of them at once so I'm wondering what I should take and what I should order.

1st cycle - test only
2nd cycle- test e, tren (and added some eq at the end)
3rd cycle -test e 500/wk, tren 300/wk, dbol 50/ed

Last cycle didnt work as well as i wanted to and i'm really looking for this next one to be effective. Not sure what happened but I ate clean and did what I've been doing the last couple of cycles, so not really sure. First two worked really well, the third one didn't work as well. Please let me know what I should order to make a hellacious cycle that WILL definitely put on some mass for me. Maybe pyramid up and add some later in the cycle? Please give me some good suggestions for a bad ass cycle. Thanks.

 

[Megatron28]

Are you going to run any ancillaries on your various cycles?

 

[Hlbodied]

Do you mean for PCT? of course! I plan to use some HCG for PCT.

 

[Megatron28]

Do you mean for PCT? of course! I plan to use some HCG for PCT.

I was talking about AI's and DA's.

Don't run hCG during PCT. It is suppressive to your LH. It should be used during cycle only.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

I was talking about AI's and DA's.

Don't run hCG during PCT. It is suppressive to your LH. It should be used during cycle only.

We need to put that line on a banner on the front page lol..

 

[Hlbodied]

Didn't plan on using any Daa's unless you think it might help. I'll get some AI's on hand if needed. What kind of anabolic a should I run and how much? Need some suggestions

 

[Megatron28]

You will certainly need to use an AI, not just have it in your medicine cabinet to look at and admire. You can look up the ill effects of high estradiol in men. These forums are littered with threads about it.

You will want to use a Dopamine Agonist when you run a 19nor. Having a limp dick and a raging libido is no fun. Nor is lactating from high Prolactin.

For an anabolic steroid, you should always include testosterone as the base of your cycle. You have not tried nandrolone yet. It is a great bulker. You should look at that. If you don't mind the liver problems there is always anadrol.

Just curious, how old are you? And how much weight have you put on in your three previous cycles?

 

[Hlbodied]

You will certainly need to use an AI, not just have it in your medicine cabinet to look at and admire. You can look up the ill effects of high estradiol in men. These forums are littered with threads about it.

You will want to use a Dopamine Agonist when you run a 19nor. Having a limp dick and a raging libido is no fun. Nor is lactating from high Prolactin.

For an anabolic steroid, you should always include testosterone as the base of your cycle. You have not tried nandrolone yet. It is a great bulker. You should look at that. If you don't mind the liver problems there is always anadrol.

Just curious, how old are you? And how much weight have you put on in your three previous cycles?

I'm 23, I have gained about 45 lbs off my cycles and I've lost about 25 lbs of fat. Test e is a long ester so I thought that would be self sufficient for a test base. I have a low metabolism so I can bulk pretty easy. I've never really got deep into the steroid thing. Just kinda dabbled in it a little and never been too risky with the amounts I'm taking. And when I mean on hand I mean in case gyno or anything else shows up. I didn't mean to have it to look at and admire. Never had limp dick off anything I've taken before nor have I ever had lactating problems. Never really had mood problems. Pretty laid back guy. I take what I take and I'm done, take pct and take a long break before thinking about doing another cycle. I'm not really hardcore into it. I'm here to learn and get advice, not to be criticized at what I choose to do or lack of knowledge. Just looking to get some advice on what I should do from people that probably know more than me. Still not sure what I should take and what to order to make my cycle complete. I'll look into the deca (or nandrolone as you call it). What should it be taken with to best compliment it out of what I have already? And how much?

 

[tbonexl]

You really don't even have the basic fundamentals down when it comes to cycling. As soon as u stick that pin in u, whether its a gram of test or 100 mgs your taking a risk. No such thing as taking it easy while running tren btw. I'm not picking on u but seriously u could fuck yourself up pretty good. Read this link:
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...ycling-beginners-guide-safe-androgen-use.html

 

[Hlbodied]

You really don't even have the basic fundamentals down when it comes to cycling. As soon as u stick that pin in u, whether its a gram of test or 100 mgs your taking a risk. No such thing as taking it easy while running tren btw. I'm not picking on u but seriously u could fuck yourself up pretty good. Read this link:
steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/664646-cycling-beginners-guide-safe-androgen-use.html

How old are you? I've done cycles before with progress made. You telling me that I don't know anything is insulting. You act like I've never done anything at all. Youre not helping by criticizing and throwing out shit I've never heard of and then calling me ignorant and then not even giving me the advice that's needed. I'm very familiar with what I've taken, but not everything. I'm sorry I'm not that knowledgeable. I know the basics Jesus. I'm
Not that ignorant. Like I said I'm here to learn. I've been buying from buddies that said they would help me out, now theyve bailed on me and I've resorted to this website. They've always told me what to do and now they aren't. I would do research on what I was taking and become knowledgable about those substances and that's it. Never bought from websites. I still haven't got a suggestion on a cycle and how much. This is no help to me at all. Just need to know a good cycle with what I have. That's all.

 

[Brunodk]

How old are you? I've done cycles before with progress made. You telling me that I don't know anything is insulting. You act like I've never done anything at all. Youre not helping by criticizing and throwing out shit I've never heard of and then calling me ignorant and then not even giving me the advice that's needed. I'm very familiar with what I've taken, but not everything. I'm sorry I'm not that knowledgeable. I know the basics Jesus. I'm
Not that ignorant. Like I said I'm here to learn. I've been buying from buddies that said they would help me out, now theyve bailed on me and I've resorted to this website. They've always told me what to do and now they aren't. I would do research on what I was taking and become knowledgable about those substances and that's it. Never bought from websites. I still haven't got a suggestion on a cycle and how much. This is no help to me at all. Just need to know a good cycle with what I have. That's all.

You may be insulted but the advice you were given is accurate. You are missing fundamentals and it is obvious you need to research more before starting another cycle.

Problems with your suggested cycle:
You only have one vial of several different compounds other than test e. Pick one and get more. Mixing compounds or using only one vial will not get you results.

You say HCG is your pct. That is a blatant mistake. As already mentioned, HCG should be taken during cycle. Pct should include clomid and nolva.

You seem to shrug off DA's and didn't lay out an AI plan. You may not have have prolactin problems in past cycles but that doesn't mean you won't. If you run deca or tren you need a DA.

Do you run labs during cycles? If you had, it may have told you why your last cycle wasn't effective.

At the risk of giving you info that you aren't ready to use, a good bulking cycle would be:

1-12 weeks Test E 600mg/wk
1-12 weeks Deca 600mg/wk
1-12 weeks HCG 250iu twice weekly
1-12 weeks caber as needed (get labs)
1-12 weeks AI .5mg per week (possibly more, get labs)

Proper PCT - You need to figure this out.

Buy more deca and this cycle is easy.

 

[RR88]

H Bodied I get sensitive as well lol but listen man up and forget about the harshness cause at the end of the day these guys know a shit load. Listen and learn. It's free advice. Were all very lucky. I'd advise test base and deca with a kick of dbol. Interested to what Mega thinks? Also listen to his talk about prolactin. Once you stay on deca for longer and higher dosages you will understand. To sum up if I have someone such as mega giving advice il take it no matter how rude lol. It's got worth. Put your pride away and soak it up. Wish you the very best. Cheers

 

[Megatron28]

You may be insulted but the advice you were given is accurate. You are missing fundamentals and it is obvious you need to research more before starting another cycle.

Problems with your suggested cycle:
You only have one vial of several different compounds other than test e. Pick one and get more. Mixing compounds or using only one vial will not get you results.

You say HCG is your pct. That is a blatant mistake. As already mentioned, HCG should be taken during cycle. Pct should include clomid and nolva.

You seem to shrug off DA's and didn't lay out an AI plan. You may not have have prolactin problems in past cycles but that doesn't mean you won't. If you run deca or tren you need a DA.

Do you run labs during cycles? If you had, it may have told you why your last cycle wasn't effective.

At the risk of giving you info that you aren't ready to use, a good bulking cycle would be:

1-12 weeks Test E 600mg/wk
1-12 weeks Deca 600mg/wk
1-12 weeks HCG 250iu twice weekly
1-12 weeks caber as needed (get labs)
1-12 weeks AI .5mg per week (possibly more, get labs)

Proper PCT - You need to figure this out.

Buy more deca and this cycle is easy.

Deca should be stopped two weeks prior to test due to the longer ester. So when you run deca you usually need the length of the cycle to be longer than 12 weeks.

OP: we are here to help, but we are not here to spoon feed you. You need to put in some effort and do homework too. Nobody is born knowing this stuff and they don't teach it to you in high school. We all had to go through the learning process. You will get there too with a little effort and help here to guide you.

 

[oldmusclemike]

Deca should be stopped two weeks prior to test due to the longer ester. So when you run deca you usually need the length of the cycle to be longer than 12 weeks.

OP: we are here to help, but we are not here to spoon feed you. You need to put in some effort and do homework too. Nobody is born knowing this stuff and they don't teach it to you in high school. We all had to go through the learning process. You will get there too with a little effort and help here to guide you.

This ^^^ Obviously you haven't done all your home work, not getting down on you but this real. One of the most fundament issues here is the use of an AI. So I post this a lot, but you need to know this:

Some of the High Estrogen Side Effects
The side effects of high Estrogen are not limited to only Gynecomastia. There is a host of other side effects that a person should be aware of and so this is why an AI should be run from the beginning of a cycle until the startup of PCT.
Gynecomastia
Anxiety & panic attacks
Depression
Erectile dysfunction
Water retention
High blood pressure
Loss of balance/instability/dizziness
Respiratory related concerns
Irritability
Low libido
Insomnia
Prostate related issues
Bitchiness and mood swings

These are all the reason why an AI. It starts with the first pin and up to PCT. Now I am spoon feeding you this and take it learn it in good faith that I mean to help you.

 

[jozifp103]

I'm just gonna assume you've never gotten bloodwork before, during, or after any of your cycles, and judging by the lack of knowledge you've shown, you porbably didn't recover properly from any of them. I'd get some bloodwork, and do some research before you jump on another cycle. Stop being so laxidasy about cycling like it's no big deal and do your cycles properly.