5 years old cyc without PCT, having trouble now

[CVsunny]

Hi

Almost 5 years ago I took 3 shots of deca (one shot a week) and from 4th week I took 3 shots of test (one shot a week). So that was total 6 shots in total 6 weeks, I dont exactly remember the dose quantity but I am 100% it was either 250 or 500 each. I didnt do any PCT that time.

After 3 years I started to feel loss of muscles and low libido, depression so I got myself tested for TT and it came out 650 which I think was pretty much normal right? I made lot of research and figured out that Im somehow suffering from hypogonadism because they were alot small than before so then (after 3 years) I did 1 month PCT of clomid which didnt increased the size of my balls but they started to hang way down only when I was on clomid.

Now its been 5 years, my question is that do I need todo a cycle of HCG? after 5 years now will it still help to kick start the natural production of T?

Thanks in advance, please comment.

 

[rippedliving]

If I was you I would do a pct to try to restore your HPTA completely better late than never if you feel like that.

 

[BEASTMUSCLE]

Do a pct to recover yourself anyways.

 

[CVsunny]

and how I would do that? Which PCT and what doses do you recommend?

 

[Jack Tors]

I was reading somewhere 1 shot of a 19-nor can shut you down where test can take 3-4 weeks.

What are your test levels? 650 is normal range...

run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) or blast it, then run PCT (HCG can make it worse b/c it shuts LH down). I would only do this if you boys are atrophied like you said even though ball size doesnt indicate test production. then run clomid only at 25 to 50mg ed for several more months.

get bloodwork done you probably will be in the 800's with the clomid and without back down to 600's

 

[Jack Tors]

you just may have low test bro. it is possible but not very likely even w/o pct that short cycle killed your natty levels. to many variables to say for sure - how old are you? hows your diet? heavy drinker or smoker? so on....

I plan to run clomid @ 25mgs between cycles even after post cycle therapy (pct). I have the same problem you do...not ready for TRT. I like to believe ill recover lol

 

[clsmth700]

650 total t is a good number for not being on cycle

did you run a full panel ? anything else out of wack ? estrogen?

no need for Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) unless your balls are atrophied or you run full pct again

you could even get your sperm sample make sure your ok there

How old are you? may be age related and/or compounded by those shots you took

 

[RISE]

Wait... you ran a shitty cycle 5 years ago and are just NOW feeling "hypogonadism"? Not possible if thats the case. Remember, Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) will shut you down as well if used for an extended period of time.

 

[Cyborg45]

I get a feeling sometimes that posts like this one are from people who want us to stop using anabolic steroids.

 

[CVsunny]

Im 30 years old means I did that cycle when I was 25, did clomid when I was 28 and here I am now, I dont drink at all, smoking is not even close to me... I exercise regularly (lifts) atleast 5 times a week, have a muscular body though though dont know why its really hard for me to get rid of those last inches of fat around my waist even with very clean diet of having intake of around 150 to 180 Grams of Protein per day..... (does that indicate high estrogen?) and gaining muscles is really hard for me since Im have been regularly working out from last 7 years....

 

[tesseract]

If you are a guy and you have tendency to have an inflated ass, yes that could indicate high estrogen, seriously get your bloodwork done properly, the whole panel, estrogen, testosterone, available testosterone (cause you may have a normal level, but is it circulating and getting bound to the receptors? are your receptors in working order?) 150 gr of protein is pretty low, if your carbs are up that could also give you some flab. Or you may just be getting older, I am 27 now, and I sure as hell do not feel as horny when I was 18. If you are unsatisfied with your condition right now, talk to your doc, see what can be done, if the solutions that your doc proposes do not work, well then, you always have testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) if that is no go with your doc, you can do it yourself.

 

[CVsunny]

If you are a guy and you have tendency to have an inflated ass, yes that could indicate high estrogen, seriously get your bloodwork done properly, the whole panel, estrogen, testosterone, available testosterone (cause you may have a normal level, but is it circulating and getting bound to the receptors? are your receptors in working order?) 150 gr of protein is pretty low, if your carbs are up that could also give you some flab. Or you may just be getting older, I am 27 now, and I sure as hell do not feel as horny when I was 18. If you are unsatisfied with your condition right now, talk to your doc, see what can be done, if the solutions that your doc proposes do not work, well then, you always have testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) if that is no go with your doc, you can do it yourself.

No I dont have a inflated ass but they are very hard neither I have men boobs, not even close, nor even erect nipples lol

by receptors you mean SHBG right? in our country we dont have facility to get FREE levels tested so I think I will get everything tested now TT, FSH, LH, Estrogen and SHBG to calculate FREE T myself.

 

[Santaklaus]

I'd guess you have low Test... How long ago did you test out at 650??? I'd get it checked again.. I seriously doubt that small amount of gear is affecting you 5 years later. Especially considering you ran a PCT... Doesn't make sense that its the gear from 5 years ago doing it to you..