500 Test, 500 Deca, 75mg tren cuttter

[anzel]

Considering a cutting phase next year after a good bulk over the winter.

Test and deca at 500mg/wk EACH 12-14 weeks
Tren A 75mg EOD last 6-8 weeks
T3 50mcg last 8 weeks
Clen last 6 weeks

The question is running the 75mg of tren eod on top of 500mg of deca. This will put my 19 Nors higher than my test. I know guys run low test high deca or tren but this is not that. This is high test with high deca/tren.

 

[Megatron28]

Ratios don't matter. Just manage estradiol and Prolactin.

Keep in mind that Deca and Tren can both cause false lab reading for TT and E2 respectively. So make sure you know how to manage E2 on your given Test + Deca dosage.

 

[golfer34]

Tron....I'm unclear about getting a false reading on TT.....could you explain please?

 

[Megatron28]

Tron....I'm unclear about getting a false reading on TT.....could you explain please?

Deca can falsely be read as Testosterone in blood work. Trenbolone can falsely be read as estradiol in blood work. So it can make them appear elevated when in reality they are not.

So it can make management of these levels through blood work difficult. For example, you may think you need a higher AI dose when in reality you do not. If you don't already know how much AI to use for the given aromatizable compounds you are running you will likely run into problems as blood work will not be a useful guide to you.

 

[anzel]

Deca can falsely be read as Testosterone in blood work. Trenbolone can falsely be read as estradiol in blood work. So it can make them appear elevated when in reality they are not.

So it can make management of these levels through blood work difficult. For example, you may think you need a higher AI dose when in reality you do not. If you don't already know how much AI to use for the given aromatizable compounds you are running you will likely run into problems as blood work will not be a useful guide to you.

Im learning something new every time I log on! Thsanks for that info.

 

[golfer34]

Deca can falsely be read as Testosterone in blood work. Trenbolone can falsely be read as estradiol in blood work. So it can make them appear elevated when in reality they are not.

So it can make management of these levels through blood work difficult. For example, you may think you need a higher AI dose when in reality you do not. If you don't already know how much AI to use for the given aromatizable compounds you are running you will likely run into problems as blood work will not be a useful guide to you.

More clear now....but wouldn't you dose the AI according to the E2?

E2 shouldn't be an issue with the Tren, but it's the Deca that would create the issue there

 

[tbonexl]

It's improbable to bulk and cut in the same cycle.

 

[halfwit]

More clear now....but wouldn't you dose the AI according to the E2?

E2 shouldn't be an issue with the Tren, but it's the Deca that would create the issue there

There are testing facilities that incorporate a methodology (labcorp) which counts the metabolites from 19-nors incorrectly. I've never personally had it happen with deca, but I have had tren show a much higher estradiol value than I really had.

It's in your best interests to obtain blood work the first time from a non-ECLIA using lab (labsmd.com uses Quest) to obtain an accurate estradiol - leading to being able to dose your AI correctly. Once you have a general idea of how much AI for X amount of test/deca, you can use the slightly cheaper labs that do utilize ECLIA to count estradiol.

 

[Megatron28]

More clear now....but wouldn't you dose the AI according to the E2?

E2 shouldn't be an issue with the Tren, but it's the Deca that would create the issue there

The issue is when your E2 lab result says your E2 is 384pg/ml. Is it really 384 or are you getting a False High reading? Do you need more AI or not? How will you know?

 

[anzel]

I use labcorp too. But I dont think I have any other option either.

 

[anzel]

It's improbable to bulk and cut in the same cycle.

Who said they were bulking and cutting at the same time? Not I said the fly.

 

[golfer34]

Deca can falsely be read as Testosterone in blood work. Trenbolone can falsely be read as estradiol in blood work. So it can make them appear elevated when in reality they are not.

So it can make management of these levels through blood work difficult. For example, you may think you need a higher AI dose when in reality you do not. If you don't already know how much AI to use for the given aromatizable compounds you are running you will likely run into problems as blood work will not be a useful guide to you.

If you know your E2 is in check before you run Tren, then you shouldnt really have to worry about it because it doesn't aromatize, correct?

I also noticed on labsmd that they will not text you if you're from a particular state....I fall under one of those states.

 

[Megatron28]

If you know your E2 is in check before you run Tren, then you shouldnt really have to worry about it because it doesn't aromatize, correct?

I also noticed on labsmd that they will not text you if you're from a particular state....I fall under one of those states.

Correct. Then you will know that the E2 reading is distorted. Or you can just pay for the Sensitive E2 Assay which is not distorted

 

[golfer34]

Correct. Then you will know that the E2 reading is distorted. Or you can just pay for the Sensitive E2 Assay which is not distorted

So as long as you get the E2 sensitive then you don't have to worry about distortion

 

[anzel]

As of recently I am now in a state where I cant get private labs. How ridiculous that you cant.