5th Week in, high E2/AI dosage problems

[masterfula]

On my first cycle of test. 10 Years of natty gym and martial arts training history, stats pre-cycle: 29y, 5'11, 200lbs, 13%bf. Only regret i have is not hopping on gear earlier.

Planned cycle:
w1-4 100mg prop eod
w1-10 250mg test-e e3.5d
w11-12 100mg prop ed
w1-12 250iu hcg e3.5d
w1-12 0.25mg adex eod

Week 1-3 felt like superman, morning wood everyday, random raging boners feeling like your dick is going to explode and wanting to smash every bish out there.

Comes week 4 and i start getting small pimples on arms and its getting progressively worse, now also on shoulders and a little on the back, small red pimples that wont respond to tanning or topical creams(pre cycle only had to tan once per week to clear any acne). Then came the lethargy, literally started falling asleep during lunch at work. Also skin has gotten so oily i have to wash 4 times per day or look like i am doing porn with oil. No morning wood, no random erections but still can get hard yet they feel like semis. Also have these crazy sugar cravings. Feels like i passed some E2 threshold and all went bonkers. On sunday nipples got sensitive so first thing monday morning i went to get my E2 checked.

E2 336.1 pmol/l converts to 91.5 pg/ml ref < 146 pmol/l
Test 178.6 nmol/l converts to 5146.97 ng/dl ref 8 - 29 nmol/l

All other bloodwork was in order so i wont copy that here.
Atleast i know that my test is not bunk but im not so sure about the adex.


Monday took 1mg adex and 20mg nolva, today 0.5mg adex and 20mg nolva. Nipple sensitivity is down and almost gone, will keep doing 20mg nolva ed until feels normal again. But i am not sure if i convert e2 really easy, is my adex bunk/underdosed or both. Dont know where to bump my dosage on that(1mg/0.5mg/ed/eod), because id rather see it crash and know it actually works than deal with my source/look for new one atm. Will be getting new bloodwork coming monday.

Thank you for your feedback.

 

[appleton111]

700mg of test all around per week, bit high but good if your getting good gains and monitoring it well and good that you upped the dosage of adex, your E2 levels where way out of whack. hope it continues to get better and the sides subside.

 

[oldmusclemike]

First let me welcome you to the forum

OP from what you have put in your system of nolva and adex it is enough and I can only figure you E2 is coming down. I would suggest that you just continue the test and just use the Adex at .5 mg eod. cutting out the Nolva. I think the nolva is over kill. this will soon crash you E2 and let me tell you DO NOT WANT TO DO THAT.

Good luck

 

[appleton111]

how the sides doing there bud?

 

[scorob777]

I made a little calculation spreadsheet for AI dose. It assumes 0.25 mg EOD for a 500 mg/wk Test Cyp dosage as the baseline.

Your body makes the equivalent of 100 mg/wk of Test Cyp (actual 70 mg/wk without ester), so I use that as the zero AI starting point. Any test above that needs some AI.

500 mg/wk of Test cyp is actually 70% test and 30% cyp, so 0.70 x 500 = 350 mg/wk. Subtract the 70 mg/wk natural level = 280 mg/wk extra test. Adex doses is (0.25 mg EOD x 3.5 days)/280 mg/wk = 0.003125 mg Adex / mg extra Test.

Now your cycle is 500 Test E per week, and 350 Test Prop per week. (0.70 x 500 + 0.80 x 350) = 629.5 mg/wk test. Subtract 70 mg/wk natural = 559.5 mg/wk test. Take that 559.5 wk/wk test x 0.003125 mg Adex / mg Test = 1.75 mg Adex per week

Works out to 0.25 mg Adex ED, about double what you were taking.

Use that as a starting point, and correct via bloodwork. Good luck.

 

[oldmusclemike]

I made a little calculation spreadsheet for AI dose. It assumes 0.25 mg EOD for a 500 mg/wk Test Cyp dosage as the baseline.

Your body makes the equivalent of 100 mg/wk of Test Cyp (actual 70 mg/wk without ester), so I use that as the zero AI starting point. Any test above that needs some AI.

500 mg/wk of Test cyp is actually 70% test and 30% cyp, so 0.70 x 500 = 350 mg/wk. Subtract the 70 mg/wk natural level = 280 mg/wk extra test. Adex doses is (0.25 mg EOD x 3.5 days)/280 mg/wk = 0.003125 mg Adex / mg extra Test.

Now your cycle is 500 Test E per week, and 350 Test Prop per week. (0.70 x 500 + 0.80 x 350) = 629.5 mg/wk test. Subtract 70 mg/wk natural = 559.5 mg/wk test. Take that 559.5 wk/wk test x 0.003125 mg Adex / mg Test = 1.75 mg Adex per week

Works out to 0.25 mg Adex ED, about double what you were taking.

Use that as a starting point, and correct via bloodwork. Good luck.

Dammit man ^^^ what a good post and priceless info