$600,000,000 Lawsuit Filed Againt Xenadrine

SkedMedz

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Speaks for itself. I'd feel alot more sympathy for this woman, if it weren't for her campaigning to infringe upon my rights to use Ephedrine, simply because her husband obviously was too careless to do the same within reason. And the bullshit about "for my own safety" is so sold. Get a new line of shit if you want to try to take away my rights. Here's the short read. If this link doesn't work, it is front page on Yahoo! News.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030717/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bba_bechler_lawsuit_5

What do you guys think? Do you feel bad for her? I also found it ironic that they are talking about "Corporate Greed", while at the same time suing for $600 Million.
 
How pathetic ... with any drug .. USE IT RESPOSIBLY AND GUESS WHAT ??? YOU WONT DIE YOU PATHETIC FUCKS >>.. i USED enfedrine for over a year and a 1/2 but realised i should take time off because it is bad for the heart ... but if ur not taking 4-5 feds per work out youll be ok ... take 1 ... or maybe 2 for the whole day ... its fake energy ... making ur heart pump away ... ~~
 
Wow, his bodytemp went to 108 degrees. That shit was really working well for him. Lucky bastard...oh wait. Anyway, I hope that she does not get a dime.
 
"It's a simple case of corporate and personal greed being placed ahead of consumer safety and the public welfare,"

And using steroids will lead to death right??

the whole lawsuit is bs
Everytime someone dies or something bad happens
Everyone wants to blame it on something or someone
Rather than the idiot who decided to take it knowing of the problems he had

Its always somebody elses fault right

idoits
 
I hope the bitch gets nothing. Furthermore, I hope they countersue her until she's completely penniless. Her moron husband took the Xenadrine, DESPITE warnings on the label that people with heart conditions shouldn't take it, and did so knowing he'd be running in extermely hot weather.
 
I think it's bs too. Wouldn't they have to prove that he was only taking the suggested amount listed on the bottle to have a lawsuit? I mean if it says not to exceed 5 pills a day and a person takes 15, then it's their own fault. If someone was to drink a gallon of Jack D and died from alcohol poisoning, would his family have a lawsuit?
 
Hey im gonna go home and take a bottle of asprin and then sue the shit out of them cuz im a dumbass. Sound cool.....OK you guys follow my lead.
 
OK lets weigh the factors of the Dumbass...
1.Hes a fattie.
2.hes had heatstroke before therefor now at a higher risk of a relapse
3. Dumbass was on an all liquid diet.
4. its one hundred and something degrees at 100% humidity outside and this fuck is busting his ass outside.
5.Hes was mostlikely dehidrated with the weather being the way it was
6.Hes a dumbass
 
Popichulo said:
OK lets weigh the factors of the Dumbass...
1.Hes a fattie.
2.hes had heatstroke before therefor now at a higher risk of a relapse
3. Dumbass was on an all liquid diet.
4. its one hundred and something degrees at 100% humidity outside and this fuck is busting his ass outside.
5.Hes was mostlikely dehidrated with the weather being the way it was
6.Hes a dumbass

Yeah and they just brush that shit aside and point the finger and Xenadrine. Pisses me off.
 
America's legal system has become a joke. It is never "your" fault, someone else is always to blame. Makes me want to move to anither country sometimes...
 
You know, I am a real stickler for not forming a real strong opinion about something until I feel I know all of the facts.

"Toxicology tests confirmed "significant amounts" of an over-the-counter supplement containing ephedra led to Bechler's heatstroke, along with other factors, the medical examiner said."


I don't know what this means. Even this hyped up article concedes that many factors lead to this guy's death.

If we assume that ephedra did in fact lead to his death, it appears to me that his apparent misuse of the product at best contributed to his demise, if it wasn't 100% responsible.


It does irritate the hell out of me that so many people in our society refuse to accept responsibility for their own negligence "Nothing could ever possibly be my fault!" However, I don't think this is unique to the US at all.

I do a lot of thinking about our legal system, I'm a lawyer. I've experienced our system from a lot of different perspectives - I've represented both plaintiffs and defendants, I've been a plaintiff in two lawsuits myself, and I've worked on the staff of 2 courts and essentially made decisions for the courts (as a practical matter judges have to delegate all sorts of weighty decisions to clerks, and then decide whether to follow their clerk's recommendations).

Our system isn't perfect, but its damn good. Due process is important. Everybody feels the system is unfair until they've been harmed or injured and want a remedy.

Things are being done to discourage frivolous lawsuits, and more needs to be done, but think about the nuts and bolts of it. You can't just decide on the day someone makes a claim whether it should be allowed to go forward or not. Very often a case has to be filed in order for the plaintiff to have subpeonas and all sorts of other processes available to investigate whether what they think happened really did happen or whether or not it can be proved.

This ends up costing a lot of money. But its better than having no remedy at all. If there was no remedy, there would be no incentive at all for companies and individuals to take care not to go around injuring or killing other people. There have to be consequences for negligence, or for example, selling dangerous products.

I'm pretty convinced that ephedra isn't dangerous enough for the manufacturers to be held liable for its use or misuse, but think about situations like the Ford Pinto.

Ford built a car and decided not to make the gas tank safe. They knew they would have a lot of fires and explosions and people would be horribly burned and die, but they calculated out what they thought it would cost them to settle all those claims, and decided that the total cost would probably be less than it would cost them to protect the gas tank. Basically, we'll burn and kill x number of people and still come out ahead.

They got sued and slapped with a huge punitive damages award. Those kinds of awards are so damn rare its silly, but when they happen they always get a lot of publicity. The punitive damage award was intended to go beyond what the burned survivors and the families of the dead burned people actually lost because of the bad gas tanks, it was intended to punish Ford and make an example of them.

By doing this, we discourage companies and individuals from making these kinds of cold decisions like "a burned baby is worth $400,000" or something like that. We encourage them to take more reasonable measures to make their products more safe.

As I said, these types of awards are almost never awarded although they are sought all the time.

OK I think I've rambled and ranted enough.

Bottom line, this lawsuit is bullshit and probably won't get this lady a dime. Our legal system isn't perfect, but its pretty damn good.
 
This doesn't have anything to do with ephedrine. You just have a young woman who is consumed with grief... and filing this lawsuit gives her an ability to lash out in the middle of her pain. It's just sad.

What's sadder is that people around her are encouraging her. She's getting bad advice at a time when she just needs to lick her wounds.
 
That fat, out of shape FUCKER got what he deserved for looking for a short cut and looking for the easy way out all just to get rid a few lbs. of fat.

All of that money still won't bring that FAT-FACK husband of hers back from the dead. I hope she burns in hell!!!

The blamegame on Ephedra has really gotten into high gear now. Ephedra as we know it will be banned by years' end. You watch and see!
 
SofaGeorge said:
This doesn't have anything to do with ephedrine. You just have a young woman who is consumed with grief... and filing this lawsuit gives her an ability to lash out in the middle of her pain. It's just sad.

What's sadder is that people around her are encouraging her. She's getting bad advice at a time when she just needs to lick her wounds.

Yup ;)

Also....Nice post Trev
 
ephedra is a fairly safe herbal, but ephedrine hcl is FAR safer than ephedra

the real reason behind the push to ban ephedra, encouragement of lawsuits, etc.. to stop its use in methamphetamine production.

most of the lawsuits will probably fail or be settled.. the government (FDA) tried to prove it was unsafe (ephedra) in court and was DEFEATED.
 
macro said:
ephedra is a fairly safe herbal, but ephedrine hcl is FAR safer than ephedra

the real reason behind the push to ban ephedra, encouragement of lawsuits, etc.. to stop its use in methamphetamine production.

most of the lawsuits will probably fail or be settled.. the government (FDA) tried to prove it was unsafe (ephedra) in court and was DEFEATED.

I'm sorry, but it is the Ephedrine Hcl that is used to produce Meth bro. Not the herbal version.
 
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