600 test e, 300 tren a ...... arimidex needed?

uberreem

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hey guys

im gonna be doing 600 test e, 300 tren a.......ive done test e before and gotten water bloat/weight, reason i am doing test e is becuase i get it through my pharmacy

do i need adex this time around or will the tren a take care of the bloating? thanks
 
How would tren inhibit aromatization? Of course you need at AI. Pharma test aromatizes just like any test does.

I think we need to go back to basics with you. Age. Stats. Past cycles. Goals. Based on this thread and your other one you seem a little off track.
 
How would tren inhibit aromatization? Of course you need at AI. Pharma test aromatizes just like any test does.

I think we need to go back to basics with you. Age. Stats. Past cycles. Goals. Based on this thread and your other one you seem a little off track.

Yes all of the above.
Now do you understand when your test goes up, your E2 goes up and then you have high estrogen. So An AI helps regulate your E2 and the keep all of the high estrogen sides away or to a min. It is NOT JUST for bloat/water retention or Gyno but a host of bad sides.
Back to reading bud...
 
Yes all of the above.
Now do you understand when your test goes up, your E2 goes up and then you have high estrogen. So An AI helps regulate your E2 and the keep all of the high estrogen sides away or to a min. It is NOT JUST for bloat/water retention or Gyno but a host of bad sides.
Back to reading bud...

yes i understand test and estrogen.. ying/yang effect. i was just under the assumption that bloat was a sign of estrogen......so just so we are clear, the use of say adex will lower e2 which will make u look more dry?
 
How about answering the questions posed to you?

sure

Age. mid 30's
Stats. 5'7 .. 163lbs(dont tell me to eat more i have a bowel condition that limits food intake), 14% bf
Past cycles. ... 600mg test e for 12 weeks,
Goals... to look like rick rude (wwf wrestler)....but of course first things first, so in this case to put on 7-10lbs of lbm
 
sure

Age. mid 30's
Stats. 5'7 .. 163lbs(dont tell me to eat more i have a bowel condition that limits food intake), 14% bf
Past cycles. ... 600mg test e for 12 weeks,
Goals... to look like rick rude (wwf wrestler)....but of course first things first, so in this case to put on 7-10lbs of lbm

How are you going to put on weight if you cannot increase your caloric intake? A cycle won't do much for you?
 
How are you going to put on weight if you cannot increase your caloric intake? A cycle won't do much for you?

well when i did the test last year the androgenic properties of it assisted with "calming down" my crohns so im hoping the same with happen this time, ill just have to eat super clean so it doesnt aggravate the disease and increase protein
 
I tend to get better results from tren running it higher than test. This also cuts down on estro sides, but not completely you'll still need adex. I'd recommend running tren 400mg and drop test to 200mg with adex .25mg eod
 
I tend to get better results from tren running it higher than test. This also cuts down on estro sides, but not completely you'll still need adex. I'd recommend running tren 400mg and drop test to 200mg with adex .25mg eod

my first dance with tren so im going to leave it as is, if during the cycle things go good, i will be dropping the test dose and may increase tren to 350 ish
 
Do not run tren for your second cycle! Omg!! Does this shit ever end? Is it like this every spring? All these bros think they need tren when they don't even know things like whether or not they fucking need an aromitase inhibitor with 600 motherfucking milligrams of testosterone?!?! I give up. I'm not even clicking on another thread with the word tren in the title until winter time. I'm about to run tren for the first time, too...cycle number fucking 12! You see guys...I can say this because I know everything I need to know about aas BEFORE I FUCKING RUN SOMETHING AS SERIOUS AS TREN. Fuck......

Okay. I'm done. Have fun fucking yourself up guy.
 
Oh, and if you can't eat-whether due to a medical condition or not-then do you really think aas is the answer for you?
 
Not gettinginto this debate lol, but atleast I see your running tren a not e, that way if sides get unbearable then its out of your system within days not weeks
 
Do not run tren for your second cycle! Omg!! Does this shit ever end? Is it like this every spring? All these bros think they need tren when they don't even know things like whether or not they fucking need an aromitase inhibitor with 600 motherfucking milligrams of testosterone?!?! I give up. I'm not even clicking on another thread with the word tren in the title until winter time. I'm about to run tren for the first time, too...cycle number fucking 12! You see guys...I can say this because I know everything I need to know about aas BEFORE I FUCKING RUN SOMETHING AS SERIOUS AS TREN. Fuck......

Okay. I'm done. Have fun fucking yourself up guy.

i kinda appreciate the concern however, im in my mid 30's have done 1 cycle last year and did a couple over 10 years ago... i mentioned 1 cycle becuase thats more relevant, im responsibily doing low dose tren.....and like i did 10 years ago i dont plan on gearing up every year.......and as for the AI questions, how else are you going to learn if you dont ask the questions? yes i know what an AI is... thats not what im asking, im asking if Tren helps with reducing water retention due to tren sweats or do you need an AI?... and also you do realize that some people wait for side to appear and others just take AI right off the bat.. so stop raging on me im asking legit questions......im not 20yrs old and doing a shit tonne of tren cuz some "jakked" guy at the gym told me that what hes on.

and you have no idea what the effect of aas is on my medical condition so calm the fuck down, you arent a doctor nor have you studies hundreds of hours on end on the effects of aas/gh on my crohns.....highly androgenic compounds help my condition, my last cycle i gained approx 15pounds of lean muscle over 12 weeks, and maybe kept 10....its not my fault i have a conditon and can only gain 10lbs of lean muscle
 
i kinda appreciate the concern however, im in my mid 30's have done 1 cycle last year and did a couple over 10 years ago... i mentioned 1 cycle becuase thats more relevant, im responsibily doing low dose tren.....and like i did 10 years ago i dont plan on gearing up every year.......and as for the AI questions, how else are you going to learn if you dont ask the questions? yes i know what an AI is... thats not what im asking, im asking if Tren helps with reducing water retention due to tren sweats or do you need an AI?... and also you do realize that some people wait for side to appear and others just take AI right off the bat.. so stop raging on me im asking legit questions......im not 20yrs old and doing a shit tonne of tren cuz some "jakked" guy at the gym told me that what hes on.

and you have no idea what the effect of aas is on my medical condition so calm the fuck down, you arent a doctor nor have you studies hundreds of hours on end on the effects of aas/gh on my crohns.....highly androgenic compounds help my condition, my last cycle i gained approx 15pounds of lean muscle over 12 weeks, and maybe kept 10....its not my fault i have a conditon and can only gain 10lbs of lean muscle

I just dropped in here but on the subject of the Question. 600 mgs Test will require an AI something like Arimidex @ min of .25 EOD. Just to start. There is a chart somewhere and someone can point you.

Now as far as Tren in which we know it does not aromatize but many think this will also function as an AI and I will tell do not figure on that at all.
Good Luck

OMM
 
Do not run tren for your second cycle! Omg!! Does this shit ever end? Is it like this every spring? All these bros think they need tren when they don't even know things like whether or not they fucking need an aromitase inhibitor with 600 motherfucking milligrams of testosterone?!?! I give up. I'm not even clicking on another thread with the word tren in the title until winter time. I'm about to run tren for the first time, too...cycle number fucking 12! You see guys...I can say this because I know everything I need to know about aas BEFORE I FUCKING RUN SOMETHING AS SERIOUS AS TREN. Fuck......

Okay. I'm done. Have fun fucking yourself up guy.
Great advice given to newbies wanting to do tren in their first cycles.
 
Yes like Matt mentioned above that its better running tren a not e, that way if sides get unbearable then its out of your system within days not weeks
 
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