A few questions about a cycle

[sicasso13]

This guy has problems man.....

 

[george585]

so if we all tell u that the best diet is for u to jump off a bridge ur'll listen well let me be the first one to say go jump off a bridge.. lol

Don't be rediculous! Nobody even told me what's wrong with my diet other than saying that it must be wrong because I cannot gain good weight!

You then, I conslude, most of you, must be very fotunate, genetically gifted people, who seem to want to grow indefinitely and be happy with that! I do not want tom offend anyone, but that's what it seems from reading some of the replies.... I am different

 

[george585]

I have given you the advice on everything you are not taking it.I have no idea how many cals you burn,what you do for a living when you wake up.I said itis a complicated thing.You need to sit down with a pro for a half an hour and get them to figure out your not listening.You said you have read the threads and you are now talking about orals.Go do your orals what do you want to hear.

I got that point. But other than that you just kept saying to not do AASs, and if do them then only test, and check my diet... Not exactly what I asked at the very beginning.... I appreciate your input though

 

[WHINER]

heres the deal u need to eat atleast 3500 to 4000 cals thats the bottom line the min u wake up u cant stop eattin cuz u need 2 eat more while on roids if u dont eat enough train hard enough and get a good about of rest ur wasting ur money and u wont see results u have to eat more than u do now

 

[sicasso13]

you are small and you need to put on size with a better diet than what you have now if you want to use juice then use test for 12 weeks thats my advice I have had it with you.goodluck

 

[sicasso13]

try it and see what happens thats all I can say

 

[george585]

u say that ur only wanna do it once so do the crackheads and herion addicts on the street say and look where their at now on the street tryin to support their drug habit... sorry no offense to anyone if ur a recovering addict im just tryin to prove a point to this kid that once his on hes hook

LOL The biochemistry of "addiction" of narcotics and AASs is different actually! And if 99.9% of people keep using Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) forever than I can only feel sorry for them, because they do bear serious health risks then
I explained that there is not point for ME in contimnuing because
1) Either I will see the MODEST results I was looking for
or 2) I will see that they did not work, so why continue using them and harming your health?

I guess it's pointeless trying you to prove otherwise, cause you must have been laready addicted to AASs...

 

[george585]

heres the deal u need to eat atleast 3500 to 4000 cals thats the bottom line the min u wake up u cant stop eattin cuz u need 2 eat more while on roids if u dont eat enough train hard enough and get a good about of rest ur wasting ur money and u wont see results u have to eat more than u do now

Thank you for finally gving me some #s, I am aware of the rest. ANd actually thanks for pointing out I need to eat more.

 

[george585]

you are small and you need to put on size with a better diet than what you have now if you want to use juice then use test for 12 weeks thats my advice I have had it with you.goodluck

I got your point. Thank you!
Though the mystery is now what "better diet" means.. I guess I'll have to see the Pro dietologist, If only I knew hwre to find them...

 

[WHINER]

bro im the same age u r and i to just started my first cycle and did my research i know whats best for me cuz its my body nobody here could tell u what ur diet should be cuz its not there body only u know what is best for ur body understand so this guy that is gonna give u all this info 2morrow hes gonna tell what works best for him it might no be best for u. You just have 2 figure out whats good for u and experiment steroids is science so experiment bro

 

[george585]

try it and see what happens thats all I can say

Sounds easy, but I wouldn;t have posted here, had I thought as you suggest.

 

[estray]

Why? Is it because most want to grow indefinitely? Or because unless you do 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc cycles you will not be able to retain ANY cycle gains????

Because steroids are very addictive from a physcological standpoint. They change the way you feel about yourself, in many cases they cause muscle dysmorphia. In other words, when you look in the mirror, you dont see big muscles like other people see you. Its never enough. Youll never reach your goals cause your goals will change. You'll justify another cycle any way you can. i gotta say you sound very naive. Not trying to sway you either way but you just need to know what youre getting into here.

Its like having black&white tv,you get color and you will never go back to black&white tv.

Lol, good analogy.

 

[george585]

bro im the same age u r and i to just started my first cycle and did my research i know whats best for me cuz its my body nobody here could tell u what ur diet should be cuz its not there body only u know what is best for ur body understand so this guy that is gonna give u all this info 2morrow hes gonna tell what works best for him it might no be best for u. You just have 2 figure out whats good for u and experiment steroids is science so experiment bro

At least someone is saying something constructive here. Thank you It;s good that we are similar in taht respect.
I agree that everyone is different for that matter, but nonetheless I suppose there are some general things like drug A is different from drug B because it on average you can expect this, vs this... That kind of thing! I am not expecting anyone here to tell me what is better for my body.... I was just curious about the cycle I posted...
It's just that experimenting on yourself blindly can be very dangerous...

 

[WHINER]

a better diet is lean meats chicken tuna any fish veggies basically if its junk food u cant eat it well u can but ur just be bulking not lean and cut just eat clean food pick up a health cook book u said u weight about 170 right? which means u need to eat 340grams of protien just check out the diet fourm people post their diets on there all the time and just figure out what works better for u

 

[george585]

Because steroids are very addictive from a physcological standpoint. They change the way you feel about yourself, in many cases they cause muscle dysmorphia. In other words, when you look in the mirror, you dont see big muscles like other people see you. Its never enough. Youll never reach your goals cause your goals will change. You'll justify another cycle any way you can. i gotta say you sound very naive. Not trying to sway you either way but you just need to know what youre getting into here.

Thanks for explanation! But I guess then that those people really do want to grwo indefinitely... And it's purely psychological... I think I have an objective test - the scales... when I see the number, it'll be enough. If i won;t feel like it then, as you asy, I'll be in need of a psychaatrist then

 

[george585]

a better diet is lean meats chicken tuna any fish veggies basically if its junk food u cant eat it well u can but ur just be bulking not lean and cut just eat clean food pick up a health cook book u said u weight about 170 right? which means u need to eat 340grams of protien just check out the diet fourm people post their diets on there all the time and just figure out what works better for u

Thanks, 167 to be precise. But I know all of that, and I am getting 300-340 for sure! Just checked today, so protein is not a problem. 3 sources are - chicken, dairty products, and isolate protein, SO it must be something else, and like I said I am close to my nat potential, and that's justfication for Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) in my view, esp considering the modest goals I want to accomplish.

 

[WHINER]

At least someone is saying something constructive here. Thank you It;s good that we are similar in taht respect.
I agree that everyone is different for that matter, but nonetheless I suppose there are some general things like drug A is different from drug B because it on average you can expect this, vs this... That kind of thing! I am not expecting anyone here to tell me what is better for my body.... I was just curious about the cycle I posted...
It's just that experimenting on yourself blindly can be very dangerous...

and that is the art of steroids my friend one cycle u try one thing the next ur gonna what 2 try another thing i was the same way u were and i just started my first shot last week and i always said one cycle is enough but now im tryin 2 figure out what gear i want 2 take next cycle trust me ur gonna what do more cycles in the future.

 

[TheMilkMan]

george585... you're an ignorant fuck and you're disregarding advice from people who actually know what there talking about

what you wanted was for everyone on this board to tell you that you're ready to use steroids and your cycle was perfect... well you didn't get that response and now you don't want to hear that you're wrong

maybe you should read this thread if you haven't already... http://steroidology.com/forum/showthread.php?t=111479

and if your not going to listen to what anyone here says, don't... but don't come back crying saying "i got gyno from my cycle, but didn't know which compound, so I hopped on Nolvadex to get rid of it... but because it was progesterone related gyno it only got worse"

here's my recommendations for you're cycle... A gram a week of Test, 600mg Tren, and 150mg a day of Anadrol for the first 5 weeks... you'll see some gains even if you don't know how to eat

 

[WHINER]

its human nature to always want better themselves for instance pam anderson thought she would be happy wit just one boob job but now she cant stop. all those people that just what 2 get one face lift and theyve got 20 just run some test and save the gear u have now for ur next cycle ur gonna wish u did

 

[dead800]

george585... you're an ignorant fuck and you're disregarding advice from people who actually know what there talking about

what you wanted was for everyone on this board to tell you that you're ready to use steroids and your cycle was perfect... well you didn't get that response and now you don't want to hear that you're wrong

maybe you should read this thread if you haven't already... http://steroidology.com/forum/showthread.php?t=111479

and if your not going to listen to what anyone here says, don't... but don't come back crying saying "i got gyno from my cycle, but didn't know which compound, so I hopped on Nolvadex to get rid of it... but because it was progesterone related gyno it only got worse"

here's my recommendations for you're cycle... A gram a week of Test, 600mg Tren, and 150mg a day of Anadrol for the first 5 weeks... you'll see some gains even if you don't know how to eat

Thanks for speaking up.I cant help this guy anymore,he wont listen.