advise please everyone :) thanks in advance!

[Inked up]

Hi everyone,

heres my first post so here goes!

my stats are:

25
5'9
191lbs
i have been training for 9 years and i would consider 5 of those serious with a decent diet consuming 250+grams of protein a day and anywhere between 2800-3500 cals a day << i am by no means perfect but i train hard have my cheat meals and have seen a certain plateau as far as my progress in the last 18 months.

I have never ran an injectable cycle, but i have ran anavar and Dbol, both of which lasted for 12 weeks and were spaced out 6 months apart. i completed my last cycle 11 months ago. my system is clensed and fairly pure


anyways to my question!!

im looking at my first injectable cycle, im looking at running one compound so i can judge to response aka sides. I naturally have a mentally fast metabolism i can still eat pretty much whatever i want barely train abs in winter and have a decent six pack. I need to put on some mass and atleast hit the 200lbs mark.

i have looked at two compounds, sust 250, and test prop.. both of which may help with my libido, facial hair and overall gains.

from reading and chats im looking at doing say sust 250 1milX2 a week say monday and thursday? this would be for 10-12 weeks? how would this sound to you veterans and any extra tips i can take on board?
For example cycle length, dosage, and basically what will be a better compound for my expectations ?


I just wondered what people think to these two and what for a first cycle people would say i should lean more towards.

im looking at tamoxifen for my PCT. but im open for suggestions. Im in no rush by any measure but the sooner i can sort this the sooner i can begin my quest to hit 200lbs

thanks in advance and apologies for any spelling.!

 

[Black Beard]

You're taking AAS for a beard?

 

[jagbc]

Read the stickies plenty if good info there. Should answer all ur questions

 

[Inked up]

You're taking AAS for a beard?

Haha no !! Just saying that May be a welcome side !! I can grow a lovely beard just takes a little while !!!

 

[Inked up]

I guess really I'm just asking, what is a better cycle from people's experiences ? Test prop or sust 250? And why? Thanks

 

[snowpatrol123]

Read stickies - run test E or C for your first cycle preferably. If you have to sust would work. Figure out what AI you want to use, get it and make sure you are aware of (and in possession of) PCT chemicals for sorting out your HTPA after cycling.

If you run prop you need to pin it minimum every other day (EOD) with my personal preference being every day (ED).

 

[Inked up]

Read stickies - run test E or C for your first cycle preferably. If you have to sust would work. Figure out what AI you want to use, get it and make sure you are aware of (and in possession of) PCT chemicals for sorting out your HTPA after cycling.

If you run prop you need to pin it minimum every other day (EOD) with my personal preference being every day (ED).

Is an AI a must ? I have tamoxifen as pct will that be sufficient ? And would sust be acceptable as from what I understand it's a blend of 3 tests ? Thank man

 

[snowpatrol123]

I would consider having possession of an AI a requirement before pinning; you don't necessarily have to use it but you don't want to need it & not have it. The thing with sust is the different esters have different half lives so your levels aren't quite as stable - which is odd because if I recall it was designed to be -more- stable. Any source with sust will very likely have test-E or C which is the way I would recommend going, pin 250mg of either every third day for ten - fifteen week & good to go.
Tamox is enough for a PCT;tamox + clomiphene even better.

 

[jack3d4life]

Is an AI a must ? I have tamoxifen as pct will that be sufficient ? And would sust be acceptable as from what I understand it's a blend of 3 tests ? Thank man

You need an ai bro no way around it. Try arimidex and start our at .25mg eod and you need to step it up.to .5mg eod. Sust is actually 4 blends of test and I prefer to run test e but that is just me. As for your pct run nolva and clomid dude and cover you're whole playing field. Run it like this:

Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 50/50/50/50 or 75/50/50/50

I would also suggest throwing in some hcg throughout your cycle at 250iu twice a week with your test to keep your boys running and combat testicular atrophy. You're body will thank you when you are going into post cycle recovery

 

[Black Beard]

^^^^

Also don't forget blood work before, during and after cycle. Too many guys don't get labs done and then they regret it when they don't have a baseline, don't know if their gear is bunk, and don't know how well they recovered. This is essential information.

 

[Megatron28]

A good place to start is by reading the threads started by Austinite. Especially Planning My First Cycle.

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/search.php?searchid=2220230

 

[jack3d4life]

^^^^

Also don't forget blood work before, during and after cycle. Too many guys don't get labs done and then they regret it when they don't have a baseline, don't know if their gear is bunk, and don't know how well they recovered. This is essential information.

Good call on those bloods beard I have no idea how I missed that

 

[Inked up]

You need an ai bro no way around it. Try arimidex and start our at .25mg eod and you need to step it up.to .5mg eod. Sust is actually 4 blends of test and I prefer to run test e but that is just me. As for your pct run nolva and clomid dude and cover you're whole playing field. Run it like this:

Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 50/50/50/50 or 75/50/50/50

I would also suggest throwing in some hcg throughout your cycle at 250iu twice a week with your test to keep your boys running and combat testicular atrophy. You're body will thank you when you are going into post cycle recovery

thanks for this man, just looking into what you read just to clarify are you running the arimidex ever day from first pin to last pin increasing the dose? if so how would you schedule that in terms of dosage? would you pyramid it? or keep it at a higher dose to the end of your full cycle.?

also would you suggest i take the PCT 14 days after last pin of sust? or immediately after?

again thanks guys this is very helpful, my friend/supplier suggested i do not need an AI that is only for sides .....

 

[Inked up]

^^^^

Also don't forget blood work before, during and after cycle. Too many guys don't get labs done and then they regret it when they don't have a baseline, don't know if their gear is bunk, and don't know how well they recovered. This is essential information.

Thanks beard,
I'm going to get my bloodwork done before purely out of interest to where I'm sitting now, personally I think I struggle from low test anyways.

Thanks

 

[jack3d4life]

thanks for this man, just looking into what you read just to clarify are you running the arimidex ever day from first pin to last pin increasing the dose? if so how would you schedule that in terms of dosage? would you pyramid it? or keep it at a higher dose to the end of your full cycle.?

also would you suggest i take the PCT 14 days after last pin of sust? or immediately after?

again thanks guys this is very helpful, my friend/supplier suggested i do not need an AI that is only for sides .....

Yes you run it from first pin on but you don't increase the dose if you don't have to. The only reason you would increase is if you start seeing some sides via estro. But you have to be careful with this stuff, too much can cause joint pain or libido issues. So I would say .5mg eod max. I've ran adex .5 ed when on dbol due to it being an estrogen bomb.

Start pct 14 days after last pin.

Don't listen man. Always play it safe on cycle and it will treat you right. Just my .02

 

[Black Beard]

^ You need to take responsibility for your own body and look out for yourself. Sides and bloods will help you decide if AI use is warranted but have it on hand, always. Good luck

 

[Inked up]

^ You need to take responsibility for your own body and look out for yourself. Sides and bloods will help you decide if AI use is warranted but have it on hand, always. Good luck

Of course ! And I will certainly go ahead when I have sufficient knowledge for the worse case scenarios I'm going to go with sust 250 shortly after Christmas and jab Monday and Thursday on a 12-14 week cycle on 1mil twice a week.

Thanks people !

IU

 

[PrinceDianabol]

OP, you can use Rogaine (Minoxidil) 5% solution on the face for increased facial hair... I love it

 

[Inked up]

OP, you can use Rogaine (Minoxidil) 5% solution on the face for increased facial hair... I love it

haha, thanks for this although i dont technically need the help was just saying a few of the sides of the sust may be welcome!!!
will post progress picks after christmas..! thanks again everyone!

 

[Manticore1]

Proviron has always worked great for me running test, helps to have a harder look. I also have Nolva on had if its not enough.