AI and post cycle therapy (pct) on Deca/Test Enanthate Cycle

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AI and PCT on Deca/Test Enanthate Cycle

I am 34 years old 5'9 and 225 lbs. This is my 3rd cycle but I will add that the gear I took before was weak at best. I am going to be running 300 cc of Deca and 500 cc of Test enanthate. I would prefer 250 Deca and 500 Test E to maintain a 2:1 ratio Test to Deca but my Deca is 300 so 1/2 cc 2X a week will give me 300cc and I think I will be ok with that ratio of 300/500. I plan on running the Deca for 10 weeks and the Test E for 12 weeks. Two weeks after my last Test E pin I will begin my post cycle therapy (pct). I have a few questions that I need answered!

1. I will be running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to control bloating, water retention, and possible "man boobs".
I plan on using AIFM at two to four pumps per day depending on what I need. I have done enough research to know that Nolva is not the best choice when running Deca. How long should I run the AIFM (or possibly Aromasin)? Should I run it into my post cycle therapy (pct) and stop or throughout my entire post cycle therapy (pct)? How early in the cycle should I beging my AI? If I choose aromasin, I have now idea what dose to take and for how long! I am leaning toward AIFM.

2. As far as my actual post cycle therapy (pct) is concerned, I am leaning toward clomid beginning 2 weeks after my last pin of test e. I have read that a 40/40/20/20 regimen of clomid is good but the problem is that the clomid pills I have found are 50 mg pills so I guess I can take a whole pill then a half of a pill and go 50/50/25/25 and that will be close. Any thoughts on my post cycle therapy (pct)?

3. Concerning the Aromatase inhibitor (AI), do I absolutely have to take it the whole time or can I just have it on hand and take it if I need it. I have read so much on this board and a few others that if you take an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on a deca/test E cycle your cycle goes much smoother and you post cycle therapy (pct) better. That the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and post cycle therapy (pct) is just as important as the gear itself! What time of day is best to take my Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and post cycle therapy (pct)? Any thoughts?

Please only respond if you know what you are talking about but some good solid advice would be greatly appreciated!!!
 
AI and PCT on Deca/Test Enanthate Cycle

I am 34 years old 5'9 and 225 lbs. This is my 3rd cycle but I will add that the gear I took before was weak at best. I am going to be running 300 cc of deca and 500 cc of test enanthate. I would prefer 250 deca and 500 test E to maintain a 2:1 ratio test to deca but my deca is 300 so 1/2 cc 2X a week will give me 300cc and I think I will be ok with that ratio of 300/500. I plan on running the deca for 10 weeks and the test E for 12 weeks. Two weeks after my last test E pin I will begin my post cycle therapy (pct). I have a few questions that I need answered!

1. I will be running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to control bloating, water retention, and possible "man boobs".
I plan on using AIFM at two to four pumps per day depending on what I need. I have done enough research to know that Nolva is not the best choice when running deca. How long should I run the AIFM (or possibly Aromasin)? Should I run it into my post cycle therapy (pct) and stop or throughout my entire post cycle therapy (pct)? How early in the cycle should I beging my AI? If I choose aromasin, I have now idea what dose to take and for how long! I am leaning toward AIFM.

2. As far as my actual post cycle therapy (pct) is concerned, I am leaning toward clomid beginning 2 weeks after my last pin of test e. I have read that a 40/40/20/20 regimen of clomid is good but the problem is that the clomid pills I have found are 50 mg pills so I guess I can take a whole pill then a half of a pill and go 50/50/25/25 and that will be close. Any thoughts on my post cycle therapy (pct)?

3. Concerning the Aromatase inhibitor (AI), do I absolutely have to take it the whole time or can I just have it on hand and take it if I need it. I have read so much on this board and a few others that if you take an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on a deca/test E cycle your cycle goes much smoother and you post cycle therapy (pct) better. That the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and post cycle therapy (pct) is just as important as the gear itself! What time of day is best to take my Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and post cycle therapy (pct)? Any thoughts?

Please only respond if you know what you are talking about but some good solid advice would be greatly appreciated!!!
 
AI and PCT on Deca/Test Enanthate Cycle

I am 34 years old 5'9 and 225 lbs. This is my 3rd cycle but I will add that the gear I took before was weak at best. I am going to be running 300 cc of deca and 500 cc of test enanthate. I would prefer 250 deca and 500 test E to maintain a 2:1 ratio test to deca but my deca is 300 so 1/2 cc 2X a week will give me 300cc and I think I will be ok with that ratio of 300/500. I plan on running the deca for 10 weeks and the test E for 12 weeks. Two weeks after my last test E pin I will begin my post cycle therapy (pct). I have a few questions that I need answered!

1. I will be running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to control bloating, water retention, and possible "man boobs".
I plan on using AIFM at two to four pumps per day depending on what I need. I have done enough research to know that Nolva is not the best choice when running deca. How long should I run the AIFM (or possibly Aromasin)? Should I run it into my pct and stop or throughout my entire post cycle therapy (pct)? How early in the cycle should I beging my AI? If I choose aromasin, I have now idea what dose to take and for how long! I am leaning toward AIFM.

2. As far as my actual pct is concerned, I am leaning toward clomid beginning 2 weeks after my last pin of test e. I have read that a 40/40/20/20 regimen of clomid is good but the problem is that the clomid pills I have found are 50 mg pills so I guess I can take a whole pill then a half of a pill and go 50/50/25/25 and that will be close. Any thoughts on my post cycle therapy (pct)?

3. Concerning the Aromatase inhibitor (AI), do I absolutely have to take it the whole time or can I just have it on hand and take it if I need it. I have read so much on this board and a few others that if you take an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on a deca/test E cycle your cycle goes much smoother and you pct better. That the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and PCT is just as important as the gear itself! What time of day is best to take my Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and post cycle therapy (pct)? Any thoughts?

Please only respond if you know what you are talking about but some good solid advice would be greatly appreciated!!!
 
Wtf is aifm....that is not a recommended ai...aromasin is good. As far as starting it goes it all depends...you can start it right from the beginning or when you see signs of gyno. The only problem is that a lot of guys can have high estrogen without getting gyno...so you wouldn't know where ur levels are at without blood work. A good starting dose is 12.5mg and titrate if needed. Once you start it you will need to continue through post cycle therapy (pct).

Deca needs to be ran 12 weeks minimum. Also I wouldn't do any less than 400 per week of deca and 550 of test.

For pct you can def use nolva....the nolva deca thing is just a myth...clomid 50/50/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20

There are no specific times to taking ur Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or pct...or your deca/test for that matter
 
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Agreed...I don t get gyno ( I have no glands in there ) but water retention and emotions run amock when my e2 is high...
 
AIFM is an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) developed for men. It is applied topically and I have read a lot of good things about it on this board and others. Do some research on it and see if you like what you find.
 
BTW, thank yall for the replies. I need all the help I can get.
 
Personally I would go ahead and run aromasin the whole cycle just to keep your estro in check not just for gyno but for prolactin related issues with the deca. I wouldn't want to wind up with gyno AND prolactin sides but that's just me.
 
bayoubengal said:
AIFM is an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) developed for men. It is applied topically and I have read a lot of good things about it on this board and others. Do some research on it and see if you like what you find.
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You can read all you want about it...aromasin or adex is the real deal....topical? Really? Terrible idea


Chain....you can't just say .5ml....aromasin can be doses differently depending where you buy it from...you have to give a measurement in mg not ml fyi
 
Exemestane IS aromasin. .5 ml I'm guessing is 12.5mg since liquid usually comes 25mg/ml. It should be ran Ed by the way not eod. Check the half life.
 
K I will run Aromasin at 12.5 mg if I can find it. I know not to discuss sources on here and that has been why I was going to opt for something else. I can find armidex but it is expensive! I have seen .5 mg eod as the correct adex dose. Is this a good average dose to start out with? I am going to try to find aromasin and if I do I will run that as my AI.
 
This is your 3rd cycle and you don't know that Clomid always comes in 50mg pills?

40/40/20/20 is what you would run if you were taking nolva.

Maybe do a little more research before you first your first cycle.

Stick to test e or c for a first cycle. 12 weeks. 500mg a week max! Get some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and run your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) only if needed.
 
Aromasin should be doesed at 12.5mg ED. Running test and deca I would say take it, don't wait till your nips start getting sore, better safe than sorry. Run the clomid at 50mg for 4 weeks ED.

I would stack on top of that some nolva which should be run at 40/40/20/20.
 
It was a mistake on Theo repost. I didnt see my post so I re-posted then I found it. You are right I did get my questions answered on the first post and I thank y'all!
 
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