Am I still too wimpy to start my first cycle ?

[Smokey1970]

5'10 170 lbs.....43 years old Do I need more gym time training natural or do I go for it now ? I want to keep some gains..not lose it all . Want to do test cyp 500 mg / wk for 12 weeks ....anybody ?

 

[prisonsex]

Given the fact you are 43...you have obviously put in gym time and your diet is fairly good (you appear to be tone and lean for a natural 43).

You are going to have some young bucks tell you that you have more natural gains. I'm going to tell you, not many.

Have you had your testosterone checked? If so, what is it?

 

[prisonsex]

FYI I am your age. In my 20-30s I was in excellent shape. By the time I hit my late 30s I had your physique. My training was excellent and my diet was excellent...the issue was my testosterone was 191.

 

[Fish44]

I think it would be fine if you do a cycle of Test c 500mgs/wk for 12 weeks. just make sure you have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and proper pct.

 

[Fish44]

I just read your other post. So you think AAS are a waste of time but now you want to run a cycle??? I dont get it?

 

[Smokey1970]

Given the fact you are 43...you have obviously put in gym time and your diet is fairly good (you appear to be tone and lean for a natural 43).

You are going to have some young bucks tell you that you have more natural gains. I'm going to tell you, not many.

Have you had your testosterone checked? If so, what is it?

testosterone is 22 where 10 to 30 is considered in the norm..dont know what the conversion is if you use the other chart...doctor didnt order my free testosterone to be checked if that makes sense

 

[Smokey1970]

I just read your other post. So you think AAS are a waste of time but now you want to run a cycle??? I dont get it?

I'm learning it wont be a waste of time with a good diet , excrcise and proper pct finally . Thanks for the feedback ! I appreciate it

 

[ronrr]

you will be fine man do 500-600 test for 12-15weeks dont stack just watch yourself grow... oh and read study the stickies for a month b4 you start they are awsome for first timers

 

[Smokey1970]

FYI I am your age. In my 20-30s I was in excellent shape. By the time I hit my late 30s I had your physique. My training was excellent and my diet was excellent...the issue was my testosterone was 191.

Did you ever use gear in the past ? 191 is definately low ..are you on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) at least now ? FYI 3 years ago I had kidney cancer , so I have only one kidney left , but cancer free...wonder if roids are still ok ...

 

[Fish44]

I'm learning it wont be a waste of time with a good diet , excrcise and proper pct finally . Thanks for the feedback ! I appreciate it

Welcome man.

 

[KingBF]

Did you ever use gear in the past ? 191 is definately low ..are you on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) at least now ? FYI 3 years ago I had kidney cancer , so I have only one kidney left , but cancer free...wonder if roids are still ok ...

honestly you should consider yourself lucky to be alive if you had kidney cancer. that shit is no joke and if i were you i would not be touching anything. i had a cousin that passed from that at 22 a couple years back and he never touched a drug or smoked in his life. def wouldnt be doing juice unless your doc gives it to you in small doses

 

[Smokey1970]

honestly you should consider yourself lucky to be alive if you had kidney cancer. that shit is no joke and if i were you i would not be touching anything. i had a cousin that passed from that at 22 a couple years back and he never touched a drug or smoked in his life. def wouldnt be doing juice unless your doc gives it to you in small doses

I'm impressed you didn't diss me this time...respect to you...sorry about your cousin..do you know what stage he was diagnosed at ? How long was he battling it ? I'm thinking how can roids be bad if I still have one fully functioning kidney remaining ..is 500 mg per week too strong do u think ?

 

[kaname]

I'm thinking how can roids be bad if I still have one fully functioning kidney remaining ..is 500 mg per week too strong do u think ?

That's a doctor question. When it comes to serious health issues such as that, then you need someone fully qualified with all the fancy degrees to answer it. Very strongly going to have to recommend not starting any cycle without talking to a doctor. It doesn't have to be from the stand point of wanting to cycle to gain or lose. You can simply approach your primary care physician or any other and ask about TRT. Advise them that due to your age and other health concerns you were reading that testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) might give you a better quality of life. Then you can lead into questions about if low dose test will cause complications with your current health issues. Then from there you can ask about higher doses. Even though they will advise a lower dose would be given for the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), you can still get their opinion on it, without leading them to believe you haven a hidden agenda.

 

[Smokey1970]

That's a doctor question. When it comes to serious health issues such as that, then you need someone fully qualified with all the fancy degrees to answer it. Very strongly going to have to recommend not starting any cycle without talking to a doctor. It doesn't have to be from the stand point of wanting to cycle to gain or lose. You can simply approach your primary care physician or any other and ask about TRT. Advise them that due to your age and other health concerns you were reading that testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) might give you a better quality of life. Then you can lead into questions about if low dose test will cause complications with your current health issues. Then from there you can ask about higher doses. Even though they will advise a lower dose would be given for the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), you can still get their opinion on it, without leading them to believe you haven a hidden agenda.

Thanks for replying..the only problem is , I've had my testosterone levels checked , and they are well in the normal range , so it would be awkward to suggest testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) wouldn't it ?

 

[kaname]

Thanks for replying..the only problem is , I've had my testosterone levels checked , and they are well in the normal range , so it would be awkward to suggest testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) wouldn't it ?

Go to a different doctor. When they finally run test, act surprised, and say you thought since you were feeling so sluggish lately, and gaining to much weight, with a lowered sex drive, you figured your test must be low. Before the testing is done you should at least be able to bring up what you are trying to do and ask if that would effect your current health condition. Once they run the test, then yea it probably will be game over, but I would just play stupid, and ask "well what else could be causing my symptoms." Even if they see through your BS, they are still going to give some solid answers to your concerns (or should anyway).

 

[SolomonGrundy]

i'm a little nervous recommending AAS since you're not really muscular and might have some chest fat ( worry about guno)
but i also believe at your current body composition you would see dramatic change. So if you can do it safely go for it

 

[JM750]

Asking a Dr. if it is ok to do a cycle of steroids is like going to an AA meeting and asking if it is alright to crack open a Beer..

 

[Smokey1970]

Asking a Dr. if it is ok to do a cycle of steroids is like going to an AA meeting and asking if it is alright to crack open a Beer..

I'd be asking him how my kidney would handle it and see if they would at least monitor my bloodwork , kidney function , cholesterol . etc....if you tell a doctor you drink or smoke heavily, they dont throw u out the door..they still help u any way they can right ?

 

[JM750]

I'd be asking him how my kidney would handle it and see if they would at least monitor my bloodwork , kidney function , cholesterol . etc....if you tell a doctor you drink or smoke heavily, they dont throw u out the door..they still help u any way they can right ?

you must have good health insurance to get the Dr. to monitor your steroid use. we'll see how that one goes over. Let us know.

 

[Vino 1]

Smokey, I will say this. Judging by your previous threads and all the bashing u did when u first came on here u are the most immature 43 year old ever. I figured u were 19 or 20. Yes u deserved that so I said it. Anyways to your question. Yes I'd say go for it. You'll love the results u get just be safe and be well educated before u do anything.