another Helladrol Log...but maybe more in depth!

[gains247365]

please leave constructive criticism! thanks!

possible additions
ginger for stomach issues if any arise
yohimbine HCL-not sure of the affects of this stacked
ALCAR-
green tea extract-

Preload
1-2 weeks Milk Thistle 1000 mg
1-2 weeks Hawthorn Berry 1130 mg

weeks 1-10
Fish oil (overall health)
ON Multi (overall health)
glucoasmine/msm (joint support)
taurine (back pumps)
Creatine monohydrate-5g workout
beta alanine-3g post workout
L carnitine tartrate-2g post workout
JYM preworkout-1 scoop
N2 Guard (liver/BP Support) (full dosage at night before bed)
Super Enzymes (digestive aid)

Weeks 1-6:
Helladrol 75/75/75/100/100/125-half doses in the AM and 8 hours later

weeks 3-10
forma stanzol (aromatase inhibitors PCT)
DAA (PCT) (already on hand)
hcgenerate (PCT) 4 hours after Helladrol doses

weeks 7-11:
nolvadex 20mg for 3 weeks
40/40/40/40


supplement schedule
pre PCT
wake up -hella-half dose,forma stanzol,Super Enzymes
1-2 hours after-glucosamine, ON multi, Fish oil
1-2 hours after-DAA,taurine
1-2 hours after-Fish oil, hcgenerate
1-2 hours after-hella-half dose,forma stanzol
pre workout/post workout
before bed-N2 Guard,ON Multi, Melatonin

supplement schedule
PCT
wake up -forma stanzol,nolvadex 20mg,Super Enzymes
1-2 hours after-glucosamine, ON multi, Fish oil
1-2 hours after- DAA,taurine
1-2 hours after-Fish oil, hcgenerate
1-2 hours after-nolvadex 20mg,forma stanzol
pre workout/post workout
before bed-N2 Guard,ON Multi, Melatonin

shopping list
Fish oil ($15)
ON Multi ($18)
glucoasmine/msm ($19)
taurine ($10)
Creatine monohydrate-($20)
beta alanine- ($20
L carnitine tartrate-($30)
JYM preworkout-($34.99x3)
N2 Guard ($58.95x2)
Helladrol-($69)
forma stanzol ($59.99)
DAA ($20)
hcgenerate ($59.00)
nolvadex 20mg for 3 weeks ($69.95)
NOW Foods Super Enzymes ($14.48)

total cost $677 not including shipping costs

height-6'1
weight-215
age-27
bf%-10

lifting 6 days a week
3 micro cycles
multi joint lifts MTW
single joint isolation lifts TFS
periodization/ reverse peridozation every 2 weeks for lifts

multi joint lifts week 1-2 12-15 reps
multi joint lifts week 2-4 9-11 reps
multi joint lifts week 4-6 6-8 reps
single joint lifts week 1-2 12-14 reps
single joint lifts week 2-4 15-17 reps
single joint lifts week 4-6 18-20 reps

multi joint lifts week 7-8 12-15 reps
multi joint lifts week 9 9-11 reps
multi joint lifts week 10 6-8 reps
single joint lifts week 7-8 12-14 reps
single joint lifts week 9 15-17 reps
single joint lifts week 10 18-20 reps

going to start the cycle at 3500 +/- calories and monitor body-fat % and adjust accordingly.

CARBS 292.8
PROTEIN 387
FAT 96.7
CALORIES 3590


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[Andreas Munzer]

looks pretty good i'd drop the daa erase and forma and just run the hcgenerate while on cycle only use one of those ai's if water weight or your prone to gyno.daa I'd save for pct if you need it but you have nolva so you should good gtg.that is alot of stuff I would say you don't need half of that but if you have it already then thats good too

 

[phoneman268]

If you have never done helladrol before, I would suggest staying at 75/75/100/100/100/125 cycle. Gives you time to see how you respond, and your body reacts to it. It is a relatively safe PH, but different people react differently. If you do respond well and no sides than up the dose to 125 in week 4.

 

[gains247365]

looks pretty good i'd drop the daa erase and forma and just run the hcgenerate while on cycle only use one of those ai's if water weight or your prone to gyno.daa I'd save for pct if you need it but you have nolva so you should good gtg.that is alot of stuff I would say you don't need half of that but if you have it already then thats good too

thanks for the input, I could be wrong as I often am but why would you drop the Forma can you explain more in depth? and I already have the DAA and Erase just from running this combo as a standalone.thanks for your help!

If you have never done helladrol before, I would suggest staying at 75/75/100/100/100/125 cycle. Gives you time to see how you respond, and your body reacts to it. It is a relatively safe PH, but different people react differently. If you do respond well and no sides than up the dose to 125 in week 4.

I have never done helladrol and maybe you could help me with the dosage. help me understand why starting at a lower dose would not be beneficial to gauge how the body reacts instead of the higher dose? would it be just a waste of a week at 50mg or is it easier to lower the dose than to raise it? thanks for your help!

 

[gains247365]

made some changes to above setup received all my sups just waiting on nolva to come in the mail I am planning to start this jan 6th and end it march 17th any other suggestions would be appreciated. ill create a journal so everyone can follow along with weights, mesaurments etc.

 

[Andreas Munzer]

made some changes to above setup received all my sups just waiting on nolva to come in the mail I am planning to start this jan 6th and end it march 17th any other suggestions would be appreciated. ill create a journal so everyone can follow along with weights, mesaurments etc.

good call here