Been lurking here for a few months, have been super depressed for months and I think learning that I have low t made me more depressed. I'm 26 and got tested at 281, high E as well, all other numbers were fine. Just been a bumbling mess ever since but I guess whats stopping me is worrying about side effects later on of taking anti estrogen drugs and testosterone for long periods of time (for the rest of my life). Does anyone worry about that or am I just being a little nancy bitch about this?
Anyone ever have concerns of longterm
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MeatHead96
Jacked and Tan
Of course I worry about it. I'm 24 and on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT). But you gotta weigh the pros and cons. My quality of life is way better now and thats what counts in the long run. Just gotta make sure I stay on top of bloodwork.
Zero V
Prodigal son
Essentially those who walk this path are choosing a better life, but I too have been wondering about my test levels...alot of things point to me likely having low T, very very low T...I need bloodwork. And I am 24.
One of the biggest things I have come to believe is, we all gotta make choices and live with them...or even the opposite of that...All I care is I have a family, and reach 35-40, after that I think I will be ready if something goes wrong lol.
But low test itself can be a breeder of disease and death. It increases risks of many diseases, makes life itself hard to get through, effects your love life, motivation, drive, happiness, health. Some people end up feeling better on a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) protocol than they did their entire life. Years of depression, lethargy, no drive, foggy mind, forgetfullness, lack of interest, advanced ADD, and other issues are all pointing me to a test issue. Plus my nuts have hurt a few times from issue lol...
One comforting though is that at our current rate of medical advancement we may very well reach singularity within the next 30 years. That means medical tech will be advanced enough almost anything can be fixed.
Here is a interesting piece I read in a scientific mag that did a special on a scientist.
There is even a gentleman researching immortality. he is studying how our cells are programmed to die and has found there is a chain attached to each cell in our bodies that every time it replicates it gets shorter. Once this chain runs out our bodies begin to die and let inflammation run wild, and radicals, and cellular damage runs rampant, etc, and we die of old age. Thats natures way, our fuse literally runs out. He plans to find a way to extend life to 150 years easily, and says that within that time technology will come even further, likely enough to double that lifespan with prosthetics/artificial organs and body parts.
That means someday they may very well have a combo of drugs/products to get your body producing test itself again.
The point is, do you really want to live a half life? Or a full life, with the pedal to the metal?
I see testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) as not the solution, but the treatment until the solution comes along. Which lets be honest, TRT/HRT is a growing field of research and there have been some promising research conducted, and much more is coming. As the low T epidemic spreads, pharm companies see a way to profit so they will drop money into it.
Tomorrow is never guaranteed my friend, so you might as well make sure today felt damn good.
One of the biggest things I have come to believe is, we all gotta make choices and live with them...or even the opposite of that...All I care is I have a family, and reach 35-40, after that I think I will be ready if something goes wrong lol.
But low test itself can be a breeder of disease and death. It increases risks of many diseases, makes life itself hard to get through, effects your love life, motivation, drive, happiness, health. Some people end up feeling better on a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) protocol than they did their entire life. Years of depression, lethargy, no drive, foggy mind, forgetfullness, lack of interest, advanced ADD, and other issues are all pointing me to a test issue. Plus my nuts have hurt a few times from issue lol...
One comforting though is that at our current rate of medical advancement we may very well reach singularity within the next 30 years. That means medical tech will be advanced enough almost anything can be fixed.
Here is a interesting piece I read in a scientific mag that did a special on a scientist.
There is even a gentleman researching immortality. he is studying how our cells are programmed to die and has found there is a chain attached to each cell in our bodies that every time it replicates it gets shorter. Once this chain runs out our bodies begin to die and let inflammation run wild, and radicals, and cellular damage runs rampant, etc, and we die of old age. Thats natures way, our fuse literally runs out. He plans to find a way to extend life to 150 years easily, and says that within that time technology will come even further, likely enough to double that lifespan with prosthetics/artificial organs and body parts.
That means someday they may very well have a combo of drugs/products to get your body producing test itself again.
The point is, do you really want to live a half life? Or a full life, with the pedal to the metal?
I see testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) as not the solution, but the treatment until the solution comes along. Which lets be honest, TRT/HRT is a growing field of research and there have been some promising research conducted, and much more is coming. As the low T epidemic spreads, pharm companies see a way to profit so they will drop money into it.
Tomorrow is never guaranteed my friend, so you might as well make sure today felt damn good.
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I encourage you to go to this website Testosterone Deficiency The Hidden Disease by E. Barry Gordon, M.D.
there is some good info about the benefits of TRT
there is some good info about the benefits of TRT
for me the decision was be fat, tired and grumpy the rest of my life... and probably die of heart disease or get diabetes by the time i'm 50 (if i was lucky)
or
go on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) get in shape, have MORE than enough energy to play with my son, do the things I wanna do and enjoy life
I'm 33 and felt like I was 60... fuck that!
or
go on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) get in shape, have MORE than enough energy to play with my son, do the things I wanna do and enjoy life
I'm 33 and felt like I was 60... fuck that!
My decision variables were different than many folks on here.
First, I've never been "out of shape" or anywhere close to that by anyone's standard. I've always been engaged in bodybuilding and healthy, full of energy, strong sex drive, and happy.
So I was starting from a different place already.
HRT for me is a means of keeping all of those things intact for the longer term. When I started to notice a decline, I acted.
All the research I've done indicates that it is much easier to stay vigorous, happy, and healthy if you never let yourself lose those traits to begin with.
So, my goal with HRT is not to get "old" and deteriorate.
It is much more work to get something back that you've lost than it is to work to never lose it in the first place.
Long term, I define that as the next 50-60 years of my life and hopefully beyond. In that context, there will always be questions because science is probabilistic and not definitive in any particular way.
So I watch things very carefully. Some would say to the point of obsession. I get my FULL blood work (CBC, hormone, PSA, the whole 9 yards) done every 3 months with out fail. I get DEXA body mass scans done every 3 months as well. I have a complete cardiovascular assessment done every 12 months. I monitor my blood pressure daily.
Like all choices in life, there are consequences. In this case I expect the overwhelming majority to be "good" consequences but I do my part to be vigilant and identify any of the potentially "bad" consequences as early as possible so I can mitigate their impact on my health.
Make no mistake, HRT is not a "pop a pill" and forget about it type of thing treatment. If you are doing HRT you must be fully engaged - it is your health.
First, I've never been "out of shape" or anywhere close to that by anyone's standard. I've always been engaged in bodybuilding and healthy, full of energy, strong sex drive, and happy.
So I was starting from a different place already.
HRT for me is a means of keeping all of those things intact for the longer term. When I started to notice a decline, I acted.
All the research I've done indicates that it is much easier to stay vigorous, happy, and healthy if you never let yourself lose those traits to begin with.
So, my goal with HRT is not to get "old" and deteriorate.
It is much more work to get something back that you've lost than it is to work to never lose it in the first place.
Long term, I define that as the next 50-60 years of my life and hopefully beyond. In that context, there will always be questions because science is probabilistic and not definitive in any particular way.
So I watch things very carefully. Some would say to the point of obsession. I get my FULL blood work (CBC, hormone, PSA, the whole 9 yards) done every 3 months with out fail. I get DEXA body mass scans done every 3 months as well. I have a complete cardiovascular assessment done every 12 months. I monitor my blood pressure daily.
Like all choices in life, there are consequences. In this case I expect the overwhelming majority to be "good" consequences but I do my part to be vigilant and identify any of the potentially "bad" consequences as early as possible so I can mitigate their impact on my health.
Make no mistake, HRT is not a "pop a pill" and forget about it type of thing treatment. If you are doing HRT you must be fully engaged - it is your health.
Very valuable information. Thanks!
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