i never have but ive read lots of post of people taking them pre workout for focus and aggression. no idea what the gains are like on them but theres heaps of logs of it.
good luck finding them. and they are kinda pointless. will increase strength and aggression significantly for a short period of time. might be useful before a powerlifting meet or something like that, but otherwise not much use for them. also extremely toxic.
From my research they're useless in a cycle. Their only useful pre powerlifting meet or combat sport, to take your aggression and strength to a whole new level. Mike Tyson was rumored to have taken them before his famous fight with Hollyfield.
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