(When I ran them together, it was the shit, however diet was the key to have it have the best results for me. Tren is just unreal drug that will change you like a mofo haha)
Honestly, I'm a sucker for Tren now ever since I've tried it haha. I would run mast, but my hairline is already messed up. I was thinking maybe something like this. I'm thinking about doing a show, so maybe something like this. Feel free to change it up.
Week 1-15 Test E 600mg/week
Week 9-15 Tren A 400mg/week
Week 1-4 D-bol 40mg/day
Week 1-17 HCG 500ius 2x/week
Then of course pct.
or
This is what I ran before, however the tren ace dose would be higher, kinda scared of running the Tren again, only because after the 3rd time using it, I had CRAZY heartburn pain to the point where I thought i would go to the ER, but then took OTC med, and it went away.
Week 1-14 Test P 300mg/week
Week 1-8 Tren A 400mg/week
Week 9-14 Var 80mg/day
Week 1-14 HCG 500ius 2x/week.
Maybe run no Tren at all? Maybe Deca (Never used Deca)?
All of my tren cycles are Tren E so take that into consideration... I'll give you something that has worked
GREAT for me... plus you'll have some wiggle room for adjustments.
I should also mention... I'm blasting and cruising, so you'll have to choose a duration that works best for you.
Plus I run my blast phases longer than most people... with the proper AI and hCG I'm always able to extend my
blast phase and shift into a cruise without seeing any downside from extending the blast.
Test-e 200-300mg/week
Tren-e 600-800mg/week
Dbol 20-30mg and Var 40-50mg for the duration of the whole cycle... you are breaking the only one oral rule
however - you are running each one at a mild dose so it's not any harder than running one at a higher dose.
The two actually compliment each other - and here's why...
We know exactly how dbol works - so let's look at Anavar... the purpose or use of oxandrolone when it was created (designed)
was for the promotion of lean tissue growth during catabolic illness... mainly from surgery drama, infection, or prolonged
corticosteroid administration - or the support of bone density in patients with osteoporosis... how ever you look at it - it supports
strength and quality muscle tissue gains.
I can best describe the combo in layman's terms...
Dbol gives you undeniable size and strength - however, it will diminish once it's discontinued... for anavar, it works synergistically
and promotes the quality of tissue gains - which also helps with the benefits and gains of dbol.
HCG - 500ius 2x/week - five weeks on, one week off - repeat.
Back to test and tren...
For me, the reason for running tren higher came from reading that both test and tren are very androgenic and compete
for the same androgen receptors - so you really want to have more of the dry lean and mass gains from tren
over test.
There are two different schools on compounds competing for receptors... and I simply decided to try running tren
higher regardless of either side of the debate, and it has worked out very well.
If I want to maximize my gains I will run tren higher than test...
At times, my workload is very heavy which hurts the consistency of my workouts... so in that case, I run my test
higher than tren.
. Just wanted to see if any members here are still using Var with tren ace. I'm debating to hop on a cycle as soon as I plan it out correctly. 
