I like vpx products since my buddy works at musclemag(i know..they suck)and I can get it at his cost which is 40% off what you see on the shelf...i ran their decavar and i loved the lean mass it put on...i figured i would try that since ergo pharms 1AD did a good job of putting mass on me, but it was not lean...and i kjept the diet the same..i dont know the molecular mumbo jumbo of this, and i know vpx makes it cash on the names of the products, but of the prohormones i have tried the decavar did well for me....my .02..plus if you go to a shop that sells vpx, tell them about the buy 2 get one free that vpx generally advertises on their site if you call them, the shop you get it from will generally honor their promo...but you have to tell them about it, and if need be, have them pull it up on their computer....more of my .02
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