Are you still the same or not ? Interesting

[MeatHead96]

No, I'll never be the same again; and that's a good thing. Then again I started in this game due to testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), so I'm a little different in that sense. I'm not going to judge folks that cruise because they're scared of post cycle therapy (pct), but they do need to realize that testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) isn't all sunshine and rainbows. If you're going to do it, you need to do it right - getting blood tests at LEAST 2x a year and donating blood/apheresis to keep that pesky hematocrit at bay. Otherwise, you're just setting yourself up for more problems down the road.

My .02c

Agreed. Shits not all fun and games. I don't regret any decisions I made and I love the lifestyle but people take this too lightly. Blasting and cruising is no small decision. Especially when your young. Only reason I do is because I was put on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) but I understand that it would be difficult coming off. Pinning yourself every day, giving blood, getting bloodwork...its a lot. Not to mention I've dealt with just about every side in the book and have to take several things regularly to keep sides at bay. Cystic body acne, fucked up cholesterol, high blood pressure, gyno, ED, difficulty orgasming, painful back and body pumps, lethargy, joint pain, yada, yada, yada.

 

[halfwit]

Dude you've only been off two weeks, you havent crashed yet. The synthetic hormones are still working. Wait another two weeks and tell us how you feel lol

You left out the evil maniacal laugh.


I have to admit, I did think the same thing though.

 

[palmers]

when should I expect the crash from 500mg of test prop for 11 weeks? I have been off for 10 days now so far feeling good, just not energetic ?

 

[halfwit]

when should I expect the crash from 500mg of test prop for 11 weeks? I have been off for 10 days now so far feeling good, just not energetic ?

You have another 2 weeks or so before it's dropped enough to really notice. Hopefully by that time you'll have started your post cycle therapy (pct) and get that natty production kicking in again.

 

[palmers]

off of test propionate? the pct calendar said to start it like 4 days ago lol

 

[halfwit]

off of test propionate? the pct calendar said to start it like 4 days ago lol

My bad, I didn't see you mentioned prop. You should see a crash in the next 4 days or so. It's usually around 2.5 weeks to see it drop to physiological levels or lower. Keep in mind, not everyone reacts the same to low testosterone either. Some guys are totally fine at 400ng/dL, while others are feeling like living death.

 

[palmers]

ook im new to the proper pct and using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) while on cycle thing.... last cycle I was running retarded high doses and I had a crash for about a month how long should I expect from this one?

also.... shouldn't my system have started rebooting (if it will that is) by the first day of pct?

 

[halfwit]

ook im new to the proper pct and using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) while on cycle thing.... last cycle I was running retarded high doses and I had a crash for about a month how long should I expect from this one?

also.... shouldn't my system have started rebooting (if it will that is) by the first day of pct?

That depends on how badly you were suppressed (HCG should help with that, but I can't really comment too much on it as I don't have experience with it personally), how long each cycle was, the types of AAS used, and the state of your HPTA. I'm sure I'm missing a few variables, but you get the point.

I don't get the full on crash you guys do as I'm on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), but I do notice a decline in my attitude and energy levels as I fall back down to my testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose. This usually lasts a few weeks until my body re-acclimates to the new hormone levels and I have to make all those adjustments internally; most of them being mental changes. I'd imagine that as it was a moderate dosed shorter cycle, you should bounce back a bit faster - but that's assuming everything else is okay.

Your HPTA "reboots" once it sees a decline in estrogen with a lower level of testosterone. From what I understand, that actually happens AFTER you cease the clomid/nolva, which should give you a nice jump start on that "reboot" as they stimulate your pituitary into action. I've had my nose in a physics text all day, so I could be a little off there - but I'm pretty sure that's close enough.

 

[toco]

Lol ill see how I am in another few weeks. Juts want this fucking sexual thoughts to subside. Makes me feel bad, I wouldn ever act on them just hurts my fucking head.

 

[MeatHead96]

Lol ill see how I am in another few weeks. Juts want this fucking sexual thoughts to subside. Makes me feel bad, I wouldn ever act on them just hurts my fucking head.

Hahaha welcome to my world.

 

[Mad- scientist]

maybe I am crazy but some times I enjoy pct after a really long cycle. It is good to just give the body a rest. I think it has a lot to do with clomid that is fucking with peoples heads so much. And not using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during cycles.

 

[SamSport]

started my first cycle about a year ago, did my post cycle therapy (pct), waited 3 months and ran again. Then i pcted for 1 week and gave up and started test prop shots and test e shots. Now i am blasting again.

I don't plan on coming off, maybe only when i plan on getting my wife pregnant, but i may not even need to hopefully.

I don't recommend cycling to anyone, because you will end up where i am right now which is blasting and cruising eventually if this is something you love and want to excel at.

Gear gives you confidence; if you lack confidence it becomes addictive; coming off puts you in a kind of ''depression''... at least a bad mood.. its hard to go over that feeling without thinking about going back on it. There's bad sides about being on gear tho.. not talking about the physical ones, but the psychological ones.. ego grows, you feel you have to act like as some1 who's strong/important. The more it grows, the further hapiness will be.