Aromasin or Nolva? Test e & Dbol cycle.

[jraddwilliams]

Hey guys,
I'm just about to start a cycle of Test-E @ 500mg/wk along with Dbol - 50mg ED.
I've ordered Aromasin for on cycle and I'm just doing Clomid and DAA for PCT. But I'm now questioning whether or not i should be running Nolva instead of the roma? Or should i be okay with just aromasin? Also what dosages should be taken?

Thanks.

 

[KingBF]

start with 12.5mg aromasin ED and adjust form there. is this your first cycle? what are your stats, training experience, diet, BF% and age

 

[DreDay187]

Aromasin does not replace nolva or vice versa. You need aromasin or arimidex on cycle to lower E2 and you'll need to add nolva to your PCT 40/40/20/20

 

[meatmonkey]

OP, Aromasin and Nolvadex are almost mars and Venus... And should you "run" one or the other while on cycle? Not the Nolvadex unless you're having gyno symptoms. (It will cut into your gains to a degree.) None the less, you should always have it on hand.
Aromasin you may not even need while on. Many dont need an anti e while on cycle. Now IF you start having bp issues (due to aromatization), itchy nips, etc., then yes, Aromasin is what I consider the better between Arimidex, and femara.
Having both on hand is a smart idea. You may not need either if lucky. Now help me out. What's daa?

 

[DreDay187]

OP, Aromasin and Nolvadex are almost mars and Venus... And should you "run" one or the other while on cycle? Not the Nolvadex unless you're having gyno symptoms. (It will cut into your gains to a degree.) None the less, you should always have it on hand.
Aromasin you may not even need while on. Many dont need an anti e while on cycle. Now IF you start having bp issues (due to aromatization), itchy nips, etc., then yes, Aromasin is what I consider the better between Arimidex, and femara.
Having both on hand is a smart idea. You may not need either if lucky. Now help me out. What's daa?

I would say most ppl do need an AI on cycle. Just bc sides don't manifest doesnt mean estradiol isn't high. High estradiol is bad whether you notice the sides or not. Now some don't require AI's but that also depends on doses used and individual in question and lastly verified with blood work.

I'd like to know how nolva on cycle will cut into someone's gains?

DAA is D-Aspartic acid, one of those natural test booster compounds. Not worth it IMO since there's no clinical significance to the increase it provides.

 

[jraddwilliams]

Thanks guys, what about water retention, i'm looking to bulk but also want to stay relatively lean... Would the aromasin help much with that or would i be better off with liquidex? It's just that i don't know much about aromasin as it's all my supplier had for me.

 

[DreDay187]

Thanks guys, what about water retention, i'm looking to bulk but also want to stay relatively lean... Would the aromasin help much with that or would i be better off with liquidex? It's just that i don't know much about aromasin as it's all my supplier had for me.

Your Ai will help control bloat but you'll want to get blood work to verify you're taking enough and not too much. Also bloat doesn't mean you're not lean. Leanness is body fat related. Bloated you'll be holding more water but you won't necessarily be gaining fat.

I prefer adex but if using aromasin the. Start at around 12.5mg daily

 

[JimiThing]

As was poinnted out you should be running nolva instead of daa. The stane on cycle is fine..better than nolva as nolva will not lower e2 levels. Read this: http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...en-cycle-good-bad-proper-management-both.html

 

[xavi]

Dre is spot on with what he is telling about including an AI while on cycle and nolva being in your pct. You can still add the DAA but it certainly will not be as effective as nolva and clomid will. Having the aromasin while on cycle definitely brought the water down for me. The link on Jimithing post will hopefully help your decision. The more knowledge the better!

 

[jraddwilliams]

Thanks very much guys. I've decided to lower the dosage of dbol to 30mg just because its my first cycle, 50mg might be a little too harsh. Is the standard Clomid 100/100/50/50 & Nolva 20/20/20/20 for PCT okay? I've been told that blasting clomid like that isn't necassary? But then i hear different... What are your thoughts?

 

[DreDay187]

Thanks very much guys. I've decided to lower the dosage of dbol to 30mg just because its my first cycle, 50mg might be a little too harsh. Is the standard Clomid 100/100/50/50 & Nolva 20/20/20/20 for PCT okay? I've been told that blasting clomid like that isn't necassary? But then i hear different... What are your thoughts?

No need to blast clomid. 50mg for the first week or two is enough of a fro float to raise serum levels quickly while 25mg is still an effective dose. I'd do 50/50/25/25 clomid and 40/40/20/20 nolva

 

[jraddwilliams]

Thanks alot Dre, I'll be going with that. I appreciate the help.