Attn: First Timers

[RJ]

Do us all a favor.

One of you please start you post and say the following:

"Hi, my name is Fred. I am 24years old. I've been working out for a couple years. I don't eat that great and really don't know how. Nor do I train hard enough cause I'm just not really into it I just wanna look good. Basically, I just hate being smaller than an 8th grader.

I know some guys that have done juice and I love how big they got and that it didn't take that long. And how much the girls pay attention to them now when we go to Fire Island.

I have no idea what to do but i bought 2 bottles of Deca from one of the guys in the gym. Now, I know I shouldn't be doing a cycle until i figure all the other stuff out, but I'm gonna do this Deca regardless, so could you please give me the best suggestions for my situation?"

You see, at least this way we would know that you know you have no right to be doing AAS yet, but at least you had the balls to be honest instead of giving us the top bullshit answers on this forum (and the other 23 forums you posted this on) and we can at least start with the honest reasons for your ignorance. Which we of course know after a couple posts later.

1. "I know exactly what I'm doing in the gym"
2. "My diet is dead ON!! No doubt"
3. "I've researched a shitload on the boards"
4. "I've been stuck at 128lbs for a while now"


If one of you window-licking retards makes a first cycle post like that, I will give you the advice you need to not end up a limp dick estrogen case who wants to slit his wrists after losing 25lbs when he only gained 10lbs on the cycle.

Thank you,

RJH90210

 

[ThisiswhatIdo]

LOL RJ I like that. That is the way i should have written my post because i havent been getting anything back from it but i have done a cycle before but think that i wasnt doin it right and as of right now i have 4 bottles of test prop 100mg and 4 bottles of deca 250 and 2 bottles of Winstrol (winny). Now from reading on here i get that

Test Prop 100MG Eod
Deca 250 2 times a week
and the Winstrol (winny) i was goin to put in optional the last 4 weeks without the deca. I really dont knw what i am supposed to use as far as a pct and my diet isnt that great. I am 26 yrs old and around 5'11 185 and i really dont knw what my body fat is. Just like a llot of these guys i dont know a damn thing about what im really doing i just follow up on what other ppl that have juiced before tell me. And i know that there is a lot of guys that are goin to talk me out of not doin it until i get my diet up or lift more. But am i goin to listen 9 times out of 10 NO. But i would love some advice on how to do it the right when when i take that chance.

 

[drewbolic]

Wow RJ it worked!

 

[RJ]

LOL RJ I like that. That is the way i should have written my post because i havent been getting anything back from it but i have done a cycle before but think that i wasnt doin it right and as of right now i have 4 bottles of test prop 100mg and 4 bottles of deca 250 and 2 bottles of Winstrol (winny). Now from reading on here i get that

Test Prop 100MG Eod
Deca 250 2 times a week
and the Winstrol (winny) i was goin to put in optional the last 4 weeks without the deca. I really dont knw what i am supposed to use as far as a pct and my diet isnt that great. I am 26 yrs old and around 5'11 185 and i really dont knw what my body fat is. Just like a llot of these guys i dont know a damn thing about what im really doing i just follow up on what other ppl that have juiced before tell me. And i know that there is a lot of guys that are goin to talk me out of not doin it until i get my diet up or lift more. But am i goin to listen 9 times out of 10 NO. But i would love some advice on how to do it the right when when i take that chance.

First off, thanks. Second. You are right, you shouldn't be, but you have it, and I know you're gonna use it. This is what I would do:

Week 1-10 Test Prop 100mg/w MWF
Week 13-16 (actually start PCT three days after last test shot) Clomid 50mg/d
Have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like Aromasin on hand for any gyno issues, but don't take it unless you need it.

This is a great base cycle to get you started and you have a good bit left for another badass cycle once you get your feet wet. Save the Winstrol (winny) and Deca for your next cycle. You will have 1 bottle of test prop left also. Then, I would get some long acting test like enan or cyp, and at that point we can set you up with a nice mass cycle with the Deca. Me personally i would sell the Winstrol (winny) and get some tren for that next cycle, cuz to me Winstrol (winny) sucks ass, but thats up to you. You could use that one btl of Test Prop you have left for a kick start (first 3 weeks of the cycle at 100mg MWF for 3 weeks) and the Tren (or winny) could be used at the end if you wanted to cut up a bit.

Either way, you're gonna need to have a sound diet for any of these cycles. You can do it without, but you won't gain anything but water. I don't do free diet advice, but I know you can get a basic setup in the deit forum.

Good luck.

 

[ThisiswhatIdo]

I appreciate that a lot. The pct is a must that i need to get because my first cycle i did without one and after a couple months i started to feel a lump behind my tit and than it just turned into a fluffy nipple and the same as the other one. This was about 2 yrs ago tho. Its not that bad just a little fluffy i was wondering is there anything to reverse that at all. And I appreciate the help on my cycle base my man.

 

[RJ]

I appreciate that a lot. The pct is a must that i need to get because my first cycle i did without one and after a couple months i started to feel a lump behind my tit and than it just turned into a fluffy nipple and the same as the other one. This was about 2 yrs ago tho. Its not that bad just a little fluffy i was wondering is there anything to reverse that at all. And I appreciate the help on my cycle base my man.

if its pre-existing gyno. Not puffy nipples, but actual lumps, only thing i suggest is Toremifene CItrate. I had a lump in my right nip last year, took 30mg/d for 30 days and withinn 3 weeks it was gone. Its a new SERM and i would use it as my PCT choice, if i did PCTs (im on HRT). Only reason I suggested Clomid is cause its time tested for PCT.

But for the gyno, give the TC a shot. If it doesn't get rid of it, you may have to have it cut out. Ive heard some say Letro, but that shit is ugly to me. Way too harsh. Espo at the dose suggested for gyno lump reduction.

 

[3J]

nice post rj...

 

[ThisiswhatIdo]

do any of the sponsors sell it

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

great thread RJ-and i agree on all points-they need to be honest-and they will get more help

 

[cyto33]

wicked point should be given from any one that reads this.

 

[dialtone]

fantastic post, preach it brother

 

[3J]

lol.. i think rj and dtone are distant cousins or something.. lmfao.....

say it as it is boys

 

[ThisiswhatIdo]

if its pre-existing gyno. Not puffy nipples, but actual lumps, only thing i suggest is Toremifene CItrate. I had a lump in my right nip last year, took 30mg/d for 30 days and withinn 3 weeks it was gone. Its a new SERM and i would use it as my PCT choice, if i did PCTs (im on HRT). Only reason I suggested Clomid is cause its time tested for PCT.

But for the gyno, give the TC a shot. If it doesn't get rid of it, you may have to have it cut out. Ive heard some say Letro, but that shit is ugly to me. Way too harsh. Espo at the dose suggested for gyno lump reduction.

So U think that it will reverse the gyno even tho it was like almost two years ago since i had them. now they are little bigger but doesnt hurt at all and makes my nipple look fluffy. DO you think the letro and the tc could do the job if i purchased both

 

[3J]

lethro is so damn strong u dont need another Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or serm...


at .25mg lethro can kill upto 80% of your estro... anything past that and you take all estro out of your system.. thats why lethro is the only Aromatase inhibitor (AI) that has an estrogen rebound effect

 

[ThisiswhatIdo]

So could i use the letro while i am on cycle and than use the tc to start my pct?

 

[chevyon6s]

this has sticky written all over it

 

[RJ]

So could i use the letro while i am on cycle and than use the tc to start my pct?

why do you wanna use both? I told you. Letro is way too strong IMO and I don't have any evidence that it will get rid of existing gyno (lumps). You have to pick one and see what happens.

Remember, neither way work and u may have to get it cut out. But i would not take both.

 

[ThisiswhatIdo]

ok No prob my friend. I will just go with what you told me

 

[Ythrashin]

But for the gyno, give the TC a shot. If it doesn't get rid of it, you may have to have it cut out. Ive heard some say Letro, but that shit is ugly to me. Way too harsh. Espo at the dose suggested for gyno lump reduction.

I'd recommend Letro over Nolva any day for gyno reversal.

Its much more effective...

You could actually stack both nolva and Letro tho.

Stacking both may be even more effective....

 

[caca007]

Hello RJH90210,

I'm going to start my first cycle in 1 week:

12 week cycle:
1-12 Testosterone Enanthate: 250mgx2/Week
1-4 Dianabol LA (Dbol): 35mg/day

PCT:
Clomid: 100/50/50/50

Bought Novaldex just in case

Tell me if I've got everything ready?
Don't worry for my diet, I have 20kg of Whey proteins and bcaa and will eat 6 times a day...