Been very sick since Saturday... Blood work is in

[New alias]

This test was done Friday afternoon I began to feel very sick Saturday night after going to an Asian buffet... I want to note a couple changes in the passed week and what I have been doing. Training 6 days a week, eating pretty clean in a caloric surplus. Working out in a hoodie for months and hitting the sauna 10 mins after lifting. I had upped my water intake from a gallon to a gallon nd a half daily and started doing 30 min walks after post-workout meal with my dog. I had upped prami from .36mg to .5mg on Thursday. I also took my first 50mg inj winni Saturday night, I am on 450mg NPP for 4 weeks and Test c for 15 weeks @1200mg weekly, I got blood work 8 weeks in that suggested my test was underdosed... and well now it is 4000 higher from a 400mg increase, not sure about this.

The sickness resembled a stomach virus, although I began feeling sick Saturday night I first threw up Sunday night after taking my .5mg prami. Last night I began feeling better, I dosed .4mg prami.... Have not felt very good this morning, layed in bed for 12 hours which is weird because I was feeling a bit better last night so I thought I would be on the rebound today.

I am on .5mg adex eod since the beginning, I upped test at 8 weeks in.... It would be much appreciated if anybody could tell me how to up adex safely I don't want to crash estrogen.

I am open to anything even dropping doses if necessary. Really not feeling well.





COMPREHENSIVE ********* PANEL
GLUCOSE 78
UREA NITROGEN (BUN) 14
CREATININE 1.07
eGFR NON-AFR. AMERICAN 98
eGFR AFRICAN AMERICAN 114
BUN/CREATININE RATIO NOT APPLICABLE
SODIUM 132 LOW
POTASSIUM 4.9
CHLORIDE 98
CARBON DIOXIDE 29
CALCIUM 9.6
PROTEIN, TOTAL 7.4
ALBUMIN 4.7
GLOBULIN 2.7
ALBUMIN/GLOBULIN RATIO 1.7
BILIRUBIN, TOTAL 0.4
ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE 54
AST 41 HIGH
ALT 47 HIGH
TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL, LC/MS/MS 6163 HIGH

CBC (INCLUDES DIFF/PLT)
WHITE BLOOD CELL COUNT 11.6 HIGH
RED BLOOD CELL COUNT 5.11
HEMOGLOBIN 14.6
HEMATOCRIT 44.5
MCV 87.1
MCH 28.6
MCHC 32.8
RDW 12.9
PLATELET COUNT 383
MPV DNR
ABSOLUTE NEUTROPHILS 8294 HIGH
ABSOLUTE BAND NEUTROPHILS DNR
ABSOLUTE METAMYELOCYTES DNR
ABSOLUTE MYELOCYTES DNR
ABSOLUTE PROMYELOCYTES DNR
ABSOLUTE LYMPHOCYTES 1763
ABSOLUTE MONOCYTES 951 HIGH
ABSOLUTE EOSINOPHILS 545 HIGH
ABSOLUTE BASOPHILS 46
ABSOLUTE BLASTS DNR
ABSOLUTE NUCLEATED RBC DNR
NEUTROPHILS 71.5
BAND NEUTROPHILS DNR
METAMYELOCYTES DNR
MYELOCYTES DNR
PROMYELOCYTES DNR
LYMPHOCYTES 15.2
REACTIVE LYMPHOCYTES DNR
MONOCYTES 8.2
EOSINOPHILS 4.7
BASOPHILS 0.4
BLASTS DNR
NUCLEATED RBC DNR
FSH <0.7 LOW
LH <0.2 LOW
ESTRADIOL 66 HIGH

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

Sound like food poising. Hop on some fiber and clean out your system and load up on vitamins and you should be fine a a few days.

 

[Teutonic]

U could just be sick w the flu bro. I am not trying to minimize your ailment but that is a hefty dose of aas and they do lower imuno and I d say...with out any studies..that w higher doses the sides increase more than the gains and I would be of the opinion that would go for your imuno too.

Patience and hydration. My last bout was 4 day s of shit s and 3 weeks to get right. That was a real bummer.

I d up the ai s in slow increments as your destabilizing your bodies homeostasis and to hurriedly try to correct the augmentation s disruption would in itself rock your boat.

 

[New alias]

Thank you Teutonic and Dreaded Pirate Roberts!

I think I want to drop test c down to 1g weekly... If anyone wants to talk me out of this or suggest how to adjust my ai as estrogen is high that would be helpful. Npp will stay 450mg/wk, win will stay at 50mg daily 4 6 weeks... This blast will end at that point.

 

[tury694]

Thank you Teutonic and Dreaded Pirate Roberts!

I think I want to drop test c down to 1g weekly... If anyone wants to talk me out of this or suggest how to adjust my ai as estrogen is high that would be helpful. Npp will stay 450mg/wk, win will stay at 50mg daily 4 6 weeks... This blast will end at that point.

Stay where you are at. The estraidol is not that high, especially since that is not a sensitive assay. You have a bad cold, flu, or maybe even Ebola......You have a flu or cold, ride that shit out.

 

[hiram1st]

Test c for 15 weeks @1200mg weekly, I got blood work 8 weeks in that suggested my test was underdosed... and well now it is 4000 higher from a 400mg increase, not sure about this.

I am on .5mg adex eod since the beginning, I upped test at 8 weeks in.... It would be much appreciated if anybody could tell me how to up adex safely I don't want to crash estrogen.

These 2 statements from the original post are a little confusing. The 8 week blood work was @1200mg for 8 weeks? When did you up it the other 400mg?

Just thinking if your test was at the 1600mg dose when you switch back you may not need to adjust the adex.

 

[New alias]

800mg at 8 weeks in, blood work from privatemdlabs showed tt results at 2100... Idk why. I increased dose at 8 weeks because the results lead me to believe my test was underdosed. I have been at 1200mg for about 7 weeks. This most recent test was with labsmd.

 

[Teutonic]

I d stay w everything unless this flu lingers for weeks. To run THAT dose...doses...may need to cruise then re up..pct out...I am just postulating trying to help. Patience is not my virtue.

 

[New alias]

I d stay w everything unless this flu lingers for weeks. To run THAT dose...doses...may need to cruise then re up..pct out...I am just postulating trying to help. Patience is not my virtue.

I am trt, friend. But I understand what u mean, if anything ill just cut this short and hold everything for next time I think I will be better this weekend tho if this is just some food poisoning.

 

[Transporter]

I personally would drop the test to a 1000mg and stay with the same dose of adex since where you at, it's not bad. I would also drop the prami. Never had a use for it if my estradiol was in check. Take a couple days off from the gym, get some rest and see how you feel then. Good luck !!

 

[New alias]

I personally would drop the test to a 1000mg and stay with the same dose of adex since where you at, it's not bad. I would also drop the prami. Never had a use for it if my estradiol was in check. Take a couple days off from the gym, get some rest and see how you feel then. Good luck !!

Good points, thank you

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

Sorry I dont understand. Why you would ever take that much. The body can't use it. Half of what your taking is being wasted. Why risk the health issue. I'm wondering with you name if this is serious or bs

 

[New alias]

Sorry I dont understand. Why you would ever take that much. The body can't use it. Half of what your taking is being wasted. Why risk the health issue. I'm wondering with you name if this is serious or bs

I said I was open to dropping doses, what would u suggest? I am the kind of person who takes things to the extreme, especially when I am as serious about something as I am about lifting. I have felt great this whole cycle other than the occasional mood swings, had an ed issue once which is why I increased prami and then this stomach virus.

I got incorrect blood work from privatemdlabs, 8 weeks in.... My results showed my tt was at 2140 on 800mg of test c. I noted that my test was underdosed and increased it. Now after getting blood work 8 weeks later with labsmd I am seeing an increased in about 4k tt from a 400mg per week increase.

So I kind of fucked up I suppose. Live and learn, I havnt experienced any horrible side effects although I prob wasted some money the way u put it... Which is okay... Do you want to alter my doses Dreaded Pirate Roberts? I will do as u say

 

[xplicid]

Looks like there is some infection, wbc is high from your labs which indicates immune system resoonse. Rest and hydrate.

On a side note, alt and ast seemed to be high for bbers, whether natty or aas.... Anyone know why? Doc told me I need to slow down my drinking cause mine were also elevated..... I rarely drink

 

[Charles Bronson]

Sorry I dont understand. Why you would ever take that much. The body can't use it. Half of what your taking is being wasted. Why risk the health issue. I'm wondering with you name if this is serious or bs

spoken with alias on pm... he is legit DPR

and I'm sure you understand the scrutiny here alias..

this place draws trolls like shite draws flies..

check out the guy who has ''zero sperm'' because he ran an 8 month cycle and went from 180 lbs to 319 lbs. GAAAAY!

so no hard feelings there fellas, for anybody


id drop the test dosage too bro, pretty high even if its under dosed gear..

with running that much testosterone , you get diminished returns on the benefits really only upping the severity of side effects

as far as the test levels being jacked up from bloodpanel to bloodpanel-

I've had test levels come back askew running on the same company's gear..
as if one bottle was legit, and then the next bottle was way under dosed - that kind of thing.

id say the guys all pointing you in the right direction bro, rest hydrate and give your body time to recover

in the end its about our strength and vitality, our quality of life if not our health

feel better soon man - Bronson

 

[New alias]

spoken with alias on pm... he is legit DPR

and I'm sure you understand the scrutiny here alias..

this place draws trolls like shite draws flies..

check out the guy who has ''zero sperm'' because he ran an 8 month cycle and went from 180 lbs to 319 lbs. GAAAAY!

so no hard feelings there fellas, for anybody


id drop the test dosage too bro, pretty high even if its under dosed gear..

with running that much testosterone , you get diminished returns on the benefits really only upping the severity of side effects

as far as the test levels being jacked up from bloodpanel to bloodpanel-

I've had test levels come back askew running on the same company's gear..
as if one bottle was legit, and then the next bottle was way under dosed - that kind of thing.

id say the guys all pointing you in the right direction bro, rest hydrate and give your body time to recover

in the end its about our strength and vitality, our quality of life if not our health

feel better soon man - Bronson

Thanks Bronson I will drop test to 1g, this should allow my slightly elevated estrogen to lower without adjusting ai.

Want to update that I am feeling better today, only down a couple lbs....

Thank you to everyone who contributed to this thread and my peace of mind.