Beginner to AAS, Looking for suggestions.

[AnitaMorehead]

Hello all, I am looking to start my first cycle and would like some opinions. I have done quite a bit of research (if I did nearly this much for college, I would have all "A"s). Anyways, I'm not necessarily looking to gain a lot of mass or waterweight that comes with high levels of test, but would more prefer to gain a lean muscle, maybe 5-10 pounds over a 10-12 week cycle at max.

My current info is as follows:

Age: 22
Weight: 192 weigh in the morning
Experience: 4 years of lifting
Experience with AAS: None
Goals: Lean Mass/ thin out and cut

Nutrition: Roughly 3500 calories/day, 250-300 Protein/day on average. I don't have a full schedule, basically whatever my girlfriend cooks for me, but I try to buy a lot of chicken and lean meat to keep it somewhat controlled. I don't eat fish or anything that swims, so I take daily fish oils as well.

I have a decent basic knowledge of the products after researching them from many websites, looking into buyer recommendations, and reading these forums over the last few weeks. I am not exactly sure what I want to run as a cycle and what I was as PCT either. I have seen a lot about Nolvadex, Proviron, HCG, and Clomid, for PCT, not sure which route to take or exactly how/when to take it.... many opinions seem to fluctuate, especially depending on the drug.

For a cycle, I was thinking of combing low amounts of Test E with Anavar. The test E would not necessarily be used for the gains, but rather so that I don't shut myself down. I was thinking .5 ml (250 mg) per week of Test E with 30-50 mg of Anavar/day.

That is my current thought on what I want to do, I am going to be ordering within a few days and am very likely to change my mind with some good advice, as I have done so many times just walking myself through it already. I have considered Primobolan Depot, Dianabol, Enantox, and a few others. I need to be careful on the hairline as I already have a receding hairline (which is partly my reason for low doses of Test).

I want to try to keep this as free of side effects as possible, but I know there are risks with any steroid.

Any help or advice would be much appreciated.

 

[tbonexl]

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[Manski]

Not a good idea to run a cycle at your age but if you do I'd only run a test cycle first to see how your body takes to it.

 

[AnitaMorehead]

Do you wish that I post this in that forum? If you refer to me reading those threads, I have done so already, just asking for a little more personal advice.

 

[AnitaMorehead]

Not a good idea to run a cycle at your age but if you do I'd only run a test cycle first to see how your body takes to it.

I know the risks of stunting my growth, but I don't feel that I've grown over the last few years. I have added weight to myself from 150-190 in the past two years, but that included some bulking phases of eating A LOT of food and shedding fat in spring cycles of my lifting. I don't feel that I have much more natural growth in me other than by eating and gaining "fat"

 

[tbonexl]

If u read thru them then layout your cycle based on what u researched and we'll help u out.

 

[Noob84]

If all you want is 10 lbs, you could look into Halodrol.

 

[AnitaMorehead]

I was planning to order from a specific website that my buddy ordered from and had a successful delivery and cycle, so it has earned my trust. I have not seen halodrol on this website, or would it be the equivalent to Halotestin?

 

[AnitaMorehead]

my current planning of a cycle would look something like this:

250 mg/week of Test E
30-50 mg/week Anavar

Nolvadex/Proviron PCT, starting 2 weeks after the cycle is over. I have seen some run through the cycle, that is one thing I would like your opinion on. I don't mind spending the extra money to order more if you feel it is a good idea to run nolva throughout the cycle.

I also don't mind changing the basic structure of my cycle if you feel I could get better quality gains with other products. As I said before, I need to watch how much test I take as I am prone to hair loss, many of my family members are either bald or going bald and I have a receding hairline as is.

 

[Mad- scientist]

I would recommend you wait I know it is exciting to start a cycle and you want to do it. But stunting your growth through steroids is really not the worse side effect it can produce when taken at a young age. Your body's entire hormonal system isn't 100% developed yet and you run a way higher risk of not being able to produce natural testosterone levels that are appropriate for your age if you do steroids to young.

Also something a lot of people don't think about is all the money it cost to use steroids correctly. You need around 300 dollars alone just for blood tests. You need to check your natural testosterone before you cycle. It is also best to have your cholesterol levels and liver enzyme levels tested to. Just to make sure you are healthy. Also half way through your cycle you want to get your estrogen and testosterone levels checked. Than after PCT you want to get cholesterol, liver, and testosterone checked again.

The best long term advice for you is to wait tell you are 24 to 25 with out a doubt. But if your going to cycle it is best to do your very first cycle with just one compound which should be testosterone at about 500mgs a week. You want to use just one compound so you can see how you react to it. If it causes problems and you are using 3 steroids you won't know which steroids is giving you side effects. So do yourself a favor and if you do run a cycle make sure to just stick with testosterone at a normal dosage for your first cycle. Also run hcg twice a week at 250 iu's each shot. And make sure you run arimidex to keep your estrogen under check. And also the most effective combination for PCT is going to be clomid and nolvadex used together.

 

[AnitaMorehead]

I would recommend you wait I know it is exciting to start a cycle and you want to do it. But stunting your growth through steroids is really not the worse side effect it can produce when taken at a young age. Your body's entire hormonal system isn't 100% developed yet and you run a way higher risk of not being able to produce natural testosterone levels that are appropriate for your age if you do steroids to young.

Also something a lot of people don't think about is all the money it cost to use steroids correctly. You need around 300 dollars alone just for blood tests. You need to check your natural testosterone before you cycle. It is also best to have your cholesterol levels and liver enzyme levels tested to. Just to make sure you are healthy. Also half way through your cycle you want to get your estrogen and testosterone levels checked. Than after PCT you want to get cholesterol, liver, and testosterone checked again.

The best long term advice for you is to wait tell you are 24 to 25 with out a doubt. But if your going to cycle it is best to do your very first cycle with just one compound which should be testosterone at about 500mgs a week. You want to use just one compound so you can see how you react to it. If it causes problems and you are using 3 steroids you won't know which steroids is giving you side effects. So do yourself a favor and if you do run a cycle make sure to just stick with testosterone at a normal dosage for your first cycle. Also run hcg twice a week at 250 iu's each shot. And make sure you run arimidex to keep your estrogen under check. And also the most effective combination for PCT is going to be clomid and nolvadex used together.

thank you very much, this is exactly what I was looking for in a response (no sarcasm).. I have heard mention in ohter places of products to take lessen the effect on hair loss, without me digging through website forums again, is there any chance you might know what product they may have been referencing? I don't mind spending the money to be safe. If I can afford the products to be safe with my cycle, including PCT, then I wont go on the cycle. I will run test at 500 mg/week, but would ike to find this product ive mentioned previously to protect hairlines the best as possible.

 

[AnitaMorehead]

One more question on this thread.. Since it is said to be basically "side effect free", what is your take on me adding primo into my cycle? Everywhere I have read, it seems to be amongst the safest and most side effect free steroids on the market. I don't know why, but ever since I initially read about it I have had a sort of obsession with trying Primo, only problem is that it is quite expensive. Would it be advisable to give it a try with the test, since I should still be able to assume any side effects are then coming from the test? If you don't think it would be a major mistake to include it in my first cycle, do you think 200mg/week would be worth injecting at all? I've read that dosages typically range from 100-400 mg/week, but Ive seen many individuals say they run much higher than that even to make it effective.

 

[TriniJuice]

Nah man, I've been reading up on primo...plan on using it my 3rd cycle (lol currently on week2 of 2nd cycle...knowlege is power) unless you plan on running it atleast 600mg minimum for 20+ weeks(16minimum)...plz save your money

 

[AnitaMorehead]

Thats what I was worried about, the seller recommendations aren't always the best to follow I see. thats why I wanted another opinion on it. Ive seen many others say its useless in lower doses, just wanted to get the confirmation.

Thanks.

 

[illumin4tion]

I was planning to order from a specific website that my buddy ordered from and had a successful delivery and cycle, so it has earned my trust. I have not seen halodrol on this website, or would it be the equivalent to Halotestin?

Helladrol does not convert to Halotestin. Two entirely different animals. Helladrol converts to turinabol.