Better Bulker??!?!?!

[liftingbig123]

Hey whatsup guys this is my first post yet so thanks for any replies i get. I just finished a 9 (had to stop it short cuz of swelling at injection site) week bulker of consisting of 500mgs of test E for weeks 1-9 and 75mgs of tren ace EOD for weeks 1-8. I gained 19 pounds in the first 6 weeks it was amazing and the only tren sides i got we're little night sweats and tren cough but i loved tren cough cuz i knew it was working haha. in about a week im going to start my post cycle therapy (pct) which i have liquid clomid set up for. My stats are I'm 18 years old 5'7" 187 pounds 10-11% bodyfat. i have done two cycles and been training since i was 12 years old. i know sum people may think ive started young but this is what im gunna do with my life so im commited to it and plus i was fully done with puberty in 5th grade so my body's way more mature than my age. So im heading off to college and its time to really start adding mass on to my frame so these r the cycle options i had in mind:
Goal: Bulk
Goal Weight: 210
Length of cycle: 12 weeks

Option 1:
Test E 600mgs weeks 1-12
Deca 400mgs weeks 1-11

Option 2:
Test E 600mgs week 1-12
Tren E 250 mgs week 1-12
Deca 250-300mgs week 1-11

* the issue i know is prolactin buildup so i was wondering if those low doses would still do it and still b an effective cycle

Option 3:
Test E 600mgs week 1-12
EQ 500-600 mgs week 1-12


post cycle therapy (pct) will b liquid clomid for 3 weeks with all the cycles.

So i guess the question is which bulker is the best for mass strength and size but size that i can keep. I would prefer option 1 or 2 but i just threw option 3 in there cuz my guys trying to convince me to do EQ

 

[JamieOleBoy]

wonder why you're 5'7? you seem to know your stuff and know what you're doing but you can't deny the fact you may have stunted your growth, regardless...props on where you are stat wise...can't really turn back the past

 

[MegaKoks]

Option 3:
Test E 600mgs week 1-12
EQ 500-600 mgs week 1-12
I like it.

 

[liftingbig123]

hahah ya i know Jamie but iv'e been the same fricking height since i was 13 plus my dads only 5'9" and moms only 5'2" and in my mind i would rather have 30 pounds of muscle then another one or two inches of height but thanks for the reply and support man

 

[liftingbig123]

what if i did hte bulker like this?? (if my budget can afford it)
Weeks 1-12 600mgs Test E
Weeks 1-11 400mgs Deca
Weeks 1-12 500mgs EQ
Worth it or not?

i guess my problem is im trying to figure out if i could squeeze two bulking cycles in between now and next summer (when i start my cutting cycle) or just go all out and do one big cycle?

 

[snigg]

why did you cut your current cycle short? did you have an abscess?

 

[liftingbig123]

Idk im still trying to figure it out cuz im pissed that i had to cut it short cuz i had a 12 weeker originally planned. i started a new vial and i fucking did an glute injection and a huge bump swole up in my ass cheek and killed like a bitch for about 5 days and then i did a shoulder inject and another inject in my other glute cheek and did the same thing so i couldnt take it anymore so stopped it short. i was trying to figure out if it was dirty gear or a infection or just my injection sites sick of the injections

 

[liftingbig123]

any help on trying to pick a bulker outta those options????

 

[dvchris25]

Did you heat your gear up prior to injection?

 

[liftingbig123]

nah i dont man, the gears pretty thick too, its wierd though cuz all my other injects had no pain whatsoever and barely felt like i even injected anything. but ya how do u heat it up? in a microwave??

 

[Teutonic]

no no no
heat up water then immerse bottle in it !!!!

 

[TheMilkMan]

i know sum people may think ive started young but this is what im gunna do with my life so im commited to it and plus i was fully done with puberty in 5th grade so my body's way more mature than my age.

Congrats on having such dedication. I really do wish the best for you but more importantly, I hope you understand that the fitness industry is almost impossible to make it in. For every 100 guys that look incredible, 1 is going to ever do anything with it.

You were done with puberty at 12 years old? Did you get x-rays done to ensure your growth plates were no longer open?

So im heading off to college and its time to really start adding mass on to my frame

Congrats on going away to college; you're going to have a great time. I would recommend getting the biggest meal plan possible and be super dedicated to eating in between meals, as most college meal plans are only allotted two full meals a day. Naturally, between the ages of 18-22 you should put on a bunch of size, so now is the best time for you to focus on it.

It's very unfortunate that you started using gear so early as I'm sure you could have made great progress naturally in your young years.

Stick with Test/Deca for a bulking cycle. Stay away from EQ, I don't care for it.

 

[Teutonic]

^^^^I agree 100 percent ^^^^

 

[liftingbig123]

Thanks for the reply and care MilkMan. First of all ya i know the fitness industry is basically impossible to make into but that wasnt reallly what i had in mind. i just plan on trying to b freakishly big when im older while being a personal trainer or sumthing on the side with whatever career i choose so im not depending on this to take me far. And no i wasnt fully done with puberty at 12 but u get the idea, my voice was deeper than my dads and adams apple drew a bunch of attentioin at that age lol. and even if i did have an extra inch to grow i dont regret start juicing at this age. and its funny that u mentioned the meal plans cuz that was my biggest concern that im not gunna b able to eat enough and that clean so therefore i go the unlimited meal plan hahaha. but ya i think im just gunna go deca and test but mayb make it like a 16 weeker or would that b too long?

 

[TheMilkMan]

Thanks for the reply and care MilkMan. First of all ya i know the fitness industry is basically impossible to make into but that wasnt reallly what i had in mind. i just plan on trying to b freakishly big when im older while being a personal trainer or sumthing on the side with whatever career i choose so im not depending on this to take me far. And no i wasnt fully done with puberty at 12 but u get the idea, my voice was deeper than my dads and adams apple drew a bunch of attentioin at that age lol. and even if i did have an extra inch to grow i dont regret start juicing at this age. and its funny that u mentioned the meal plans cuz that was my biggest concern that im not gunna b able to eat enough and that clean so therefore i go the unlimited meal plan hahaha. but ya i think im just gunna go deca and test but mayb make it like a 16 weeker or would that b too long?

If you plan on personal training, being freakishly big isn't always the best and if you decide to be in the business world being freakishly big will definitely raise some eyebrows. Either way, I can respect your dedication.

It's awesome that your school even offers an unlimited meal plan. I remember trying to budget my money but when I was hungry, I was hungry. I found myself eating a lot of tuna, canned chicken, pretzels, and triscuits.

I want to say don't use gear at your age but obviously that's not going to happen, so I want you to use responsibly. With that being said, I think you should run:

Weeks 1-14: Test E 500mg/wk
Weeks 1-12: Deca 400mg/wk
Weeks 3-14: Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 250ius 2x a week
*AI if needed.
PCT 2 weeks after last Test E injection.

 

[yadi79]

Idk im still trying to figure it out cuz im pissed that i had to cut it short cuz i had a 12 weeker originally planned. i started a new vial and i fucking did an glute injection and a huge bump swole up in my ass cheek and killed like a bitch for about 5 days and then i did a shoulder inject and another inject in my other glute cheek and did the same thing so i couldnt take it anymore so stopped it short. i was trying to figure out if it was dirty gear or a infection or just my injection sites sick of the injections

its been day 2 and I have the same problems.. also my gear is legit..

my ass cheek is red and swole up..