Bitting the bullet: tren E / dbol

[Nick-]

After hours and hours of researching the best course of action ive decided on trenbolone enanthate, Spot injections. I will probably also be doing 15mg of dbol with weekends off. For pct I will run novladex only but I'll have Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on site incase my testies disappear.

I'm not sure how much tren E equals out to in test but I want to do the equivalent of 250mg /week
Nothing too serious, I dOnt want to loose my hair.
I would also be ok with only doing 4-6 weeks of it. I'd apprechiate it if someone could help me out with that, and how much novladex and when (Im guessing two weeks after last injection, but I don't want to guess!)
I'm 24 6'< Average 175lbs with 10-12% body fat. (it's hard to guess because I only carry fat on my stomach and thighs)

 

[thetruepitbull]

Spot injecting doesn't work with steroids.
Also Tren is different than test, and no amount of tren would replace test; test replaces test.
Weekends off is only for bankers, city and government workers.
If your nuts dissapear go to ER.
4 to six weeks is too short.

Spend a few more hours on this site because you are missing a ton of info

 

[juced_porkchop]

After hours and hours of researching the best course of action ive decided on trenbolone enanthate, Spot injections. I will probably also be doing 15mg of dbol with weekends off. For post cycle therapy (pct) I will run novladex only but I'll have Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on site incase my testies disappear.

I'm not sure how much tren E equals out to in test but I want to do the equivalent of 250mg /week
Nothing too serious, I dOnt want to loose my hair.
I would also be ok with only doing 4-6 weeks of it. I'd apprechiate it if someone could help me out with that, and how much novladex and when (Im guessing two weeks after last injection, but I don't want to guess!)
I'm 24 6'< Average 175lbs with 10-12% body fat. (it's hard to guess because I only carry fat on my stomach and thighs)

you have NO idea what yoru doing.
you need much more research and DONT even THINK about tren for many cycles.

TrenE is NOT testE it has nothing to do with eachother.
there is no trenE dose that equals ANY testE dose.
enthanate is ONLY an ESTER to a compound.
all trenE and TestE have in common is the E and thats the rate which its released (its half life) thats the only thing in commone.
if you run trenE with no test expect a loss of libido and possibly not being able ot have an erection for a while. on top of it not beign healthy to not have any test in yoru body next to no test.
also Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) ISNTO for post cycle therapy (pct) .

you need to do a SHIT LOAD more research.
and ill tell you right now after you do it tren IS NOT somthing to be used in first cycle or many in.
also I hope you know tren comes with the most sides for most people: nightsweats, tren cough, tightness of chest, issues breathing, not able to sleep, mood swings, paranoia/axiety ect.

also you mention you would eb fien with runnign it for 4-5 eeks?
you need ot alteast learn thebasics man.
that dotn make any sence with trenE
drug profiles dont mean shit, seems thats all you read right now.

sorry if i came out bluntly about this all I dotn have tiem to sugar coat things.

 

[funky419]

Spot injecting doesn't work with steroids.
Also Tren is different than test, and no amount of tren would replace test; test replaces test.
Weekends off is only for bankers, city and government workers.
If your nuts dissapear go to ER.
4 to six weeks is too short.

Spend a few more hours on this site because you are missing a ton of info

lmao at the weekends off, love it

 

[juced_porkchop]

Im confuse on what your doing? 15mgs of tren e? Weekends off? You need at least 250mgs a week of TrenE. Also you do not want nolva as post cycle therapy (pct) on a tren cycle. Also you never put anything about the dbol u are running? Please repost what you have so far. 4-6 weeks is not long enough to see any results really. And you wont go bald on test unless you are already starting too. But if you wanted to run a mild cycle of test tren and dbol, maybe something like this.
Wk 1-4 dbol 25mgs ed
Wk 1-10 testE 500mgs
Wk 1-10 trenE 250 mg

you also need more research man.

*1 nolva can be used just fine on deca and tren cycles AS A post cycle therapy (pct).
just not during cycle (which you shouldent be using anyway you, should use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) if anything)

*2 test should be ran 1-2 weeks longer then trene
3* dont reccomend ten to somone doing there first cycle nvm 3 compounds at one time.

 

[juced_porkchop]

Spot injecting doesn't work with steroids.
Also Tren is different than test, and no amount of tren would replace test; test replaces test.
Weekends off is only for bankers, city and government workers.
If your nuts dissapear go to ER.
4 to six weeks is too short.

Spend a few more hours on this site because you are missing a ton of info

agreed

 

[thatotherguy]

weekends off wtf

 

[BloodOverGlory]

I stand corrected. I just never heard of using nolva in any relation to tren, and didnt read anywhere it was his 1st cycle, guess when I saw tren I assumed it wasnt.

 

[Nick-]

I m just saying 250mg is the minimum dose of test, so what is the minimum dose of tren. Non of this stuff is listed in the profile because it is either personal preference or to do with size / weight/ genetics

 

[Nick-]

I'm doing dbol for test, and I read it's more effective if your on a 5 ON - 2 OFF schedule. If people are putting incorrect info in this site it should be removed no?

 

[BloodOverGlory]

Dbol for test? You can only use test for test man.

 

[cjz0220]

Nick nick nick put the tren down and back away from the table. You are in no way ready for tren and if you think you are then by all means go for it nothing anyone says will stop you. I have used tren twice its good stuff no doubts about that. But the sides it produces are serious, and you have not done near the amount of "research" tht you have claimed to do.

Dont want to lose your hair??????? Seriously????? Then I would suggest NOT putting the most angrogenic and anobolic substance in your body. I dont shed at all on test, dbol, mast, or proviron. But I shed like no other on tren it was not cool ive been off the tren for monthes and finally my hair has filled back in.

I was also a very mean an paranoid person on it I would say mean things to my woman for no other reason than to hurt her. An im not a mean guy she didnt know what was wrong with me neither did I. I was always thinking she was cheating on me and there was no reason to think it. Once off and it out of my system felt normal again and no probs test dbol all others dont do this to me.

Massive sweats all the time, zero cardio ability you get winded walking up one flight of stairs, crazy intense dreams, flaccid erections, man the list goes on with what COULD happen on tren. So if you are gunna do it I would suggest tren A so if the sides get too crazy its out of your system in couple of days rather than weeks. Not to mention 4 to 6 weeks is way to short for tren E its like test dont get really in your blood for 2 weeks and takes round 3 to start seeing any changes. I would do 10 to 12 weeks tren E I went 16 weeks and tht to me was a bit too long I shoulda stopped at 12.

If you are set on doing tren then add at the very least 100mg more of test than of tren. If test makes you lose your hair and thts why you dont want to run more of it then by all means dont touch tren. But test will help with the erections and making you feel better while on tren.

Just noticed you said dbol for test .................. HUH???are you serious man test is the only thing you can use for test simple as that. Just because someone puts something on this site dont mean its true. Im sure where you found that info there were plenty of disagreements. I think you need to stop all AAS and do alot more reading before you continue. What are your stats man age, weight, height, years training, cycles done, etc etc

Good luck to you

 

[doitright24]

this thread is fucking great! come on, really?......

 

[Nick-]

this thread is fucking great! come on, really?......

If you have something to add feel free, otherwise judging me on my knowledge is not helping.

Nick nick nick put the tren down and back away from the table. You are in no way ready for tren and if you think you are then by all means go for it nothing anyone says will stop you. I have used tren twice its good stuff no doubts about that. But the sides it produces are serious, and you have not done near the amount of "research" tht you have claimed to do.

Dont want to lose your hair??????? Seriously????? Then I would suggest NOT putting the most angrogenic and anobolic substance in your body. I dont shed at all on test, dbol, mast, or proviron. But I shed like no other on tren it was not cool ive been off the tren for monthes and finally my hair has filled back in.

I was also a very mean an paranoid person on it I would say mean things to my woman for no other reason than to hurt her. An im not a mean guy she didnt know what was wrong with me neither did I. I was always thinking she was cheating on me and there was no reason to think it. Once off and it out of my system felt normal again and no probs test dbol all others dont do this to me.

Massive sweats all the time, zero cardio ability you get winded walking up one flight of stairs, crazy intense dreams, flaccid erections, man the list goes on with what COULD happen on tren. So if you are gunna do it I would suggest tren A so if the sides get too crazy its out of your system in couple of days rather than weeks. Not to mention 4 to 6 weeks is way to short for tren E its like test dont get really in your blood for 2 weeks and takes round 3 to start seeing any changes. I would do 10 to 12 weeks tren E I went 16 weeks and tht to me was a bit too long I shoulda stopped at 12.

If you are set on doing tren then add at the very least 100mg more of test than of tren. If test makes you lose your hair and thts why you dont want to run more of it then by all means dont touch tren. But test will help with the erections and making you feel better while on tren.

Just noticed you said dbol for test .................. HUH???are you serious man test is the only thing you can use for test simple as that. Just because someone puts something on this site dont mean its true. Im sure where you found that info there were plenty of disagreements. I think you need to stop all AAS and do alot more reading before you continue. What are your stats man age, weight, height, years training, cycles done, etc etc

Good luck to you

I have never poked before, and won't until I figure out exactly what I'm doing. In the pasted (2 years ago) I did 6 weeks of dbol 10mg a day.
Im 24 6'1" 170-185lbs (depending on water retention / meals). I have northern European / German heritage. I can bench 200lbs(5 reps, full extensions). I have large soft muscles naturally. I would give up some size in return for cardio / speed / hardness. I'm not set on the tren I know I just don't want to do straight test.

 

[BloodOverGlory]

Let me ask, did u see any results with 10mgs of dbol bro? And bro im your height and at 170 and soft you shouldnt even think about a cycle until you acheive some things naturally.

 

[DarkCurse]

too small to need steroids. do you know how to eat for your goals?

 

[Nick-]

There was probably some placebo effect, but I could easily grab another 10lbs in each hand overnight.
I'm not trying to the heaviest guy, would just novladex and nothing else help with water retention/ fat burning?

 

[Nick-]

too small to need steroids. do you know how to eat for your goals?

Yes and no, usually all goes to my gut when I eat lots, I don't synthesize proteins very well.

 

[BloodOverGlory]

Bro, YOU DONT NEED DRUGS! If your retaining to much water try lowering sodium, drinking more water. If you want supps try hydrangea root, juniper extract, and corn silk. All natural diuretics. I think if you cleaned up yoyr diet youll be fine in reaching your goals.

 

[doitright24]

my opinion, you have no clue what you are talking about. you HAVE to do test, its not a fucking option. eveything shuts you down, without it you will have tons of problems. dbol and tren both shut you down, and neither are test. you have to do test. you have to do test. you have to do test. its that simple. this your first cycle, test and test only. 500mg a week split into two shots. thats it. have Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand, and a solid post cycle therapy (pct). i dont understand why at that size you want steroids, or how you came to the conclusion that you dont synthesize proteins very well???? where did that come from. you are 15lbs lighter than me, and im 5'5". my first cycle was test and test only. you have a good 25lbs to gain natty before you even consider steroids. and that dbol only cycle you did 2 years ago, i cant think of a bigger waste of money.....