Baldur2630
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I am 73 years old. I workout with with my wife and with free weights at our local gym, 4 days per week. We both push ourselves to the limit. We started at the gym last year October. We use a computer program called Fitness Assistant to track our calories burned. We weigh all our food to the nearest gram.
When I was a young man, back in the 1960's I was a competitive Judoka. I used to do a lot af weight training for my sport. One could say that I was also a bodybuilder as well. At my peak, I weighed 110 kg and being VERY active, I had very little fat. From 1975, I started my own business and because of work, I had to give up Judo and the gym. I was never sick other than a cold from time to time. I caught typhoid in 1980, and I ended up in hospital for several weeks. Then I had a car accident and broke my pelvis and was incapacitated for some time. That's the only times I was ever really sick. After 1980, I got involved with computers and software and so for the rest of my working life, I was chained behind a desk, so I started to put on weight - lots of it!
When I retired and got some free time, I decided to join a gym. It took a long time to find one that we could afford, but eventually in October 2013 we got started. I worked out routines, based on what I had done under the guidance of professional bodybuilder in my youth.
When I started, I weighed 137 kgs. We both ran a diet of chicken breast, fish, steak and liver. We dropped sugar and tried to keep saturated fat way down. I'm 1.95m tall, I used to be 1.98m, but somewhere down the years I seem to have lost 3 cm! In November we read about Creatine, so we started on Creatine and I picked up 5 kgs in the first month!
by 1 March this year, I had got my weight down to 100 kgs. So I actually lost 37 kg + the 5 kgs from the Creatine. I was incredibly skinny. It was so bad that my wife urged me to start eating properly again. Her comment was "if you were a dog, the SPCA would have me arrested for cruelty and they would euthanase you!"
I spite of the skinny body, I still had a mass of fat around my lower belly and a lot around my pecs. Looking on the web, I seemed to have a case of gyno, but it isn't hard or tender, just fat.
I started a diet to gain Lean Body Mass on 1 May 2014. My program set me on 1 kg per month and upped my diet to 200 calories surplus, rather than the 1500 - 2000 calorie deficit that I had been on. The weights that I could push increased, quite a lot. When I started, I struggled to Bench 35kgs, but since I started in October, I had got it to 55 kgs, but only 3 reps.
In just 4 months, my wight shot up to 112 kgs, my Bench has gone from 3 x 55 to 4 x 65. All my other weights have gone up by similar amounts. I have gained a bit of muscle according to the BF measurements, 2 kgs. The rest is FAT.
I haven't had an erection for almost 2 years. i have no interest in sex at all. My hair is thick, brown and shoulder length, most of my pubic hair is gone and body hair is gone also. I'm perpetually tired and I have to force myself to go to the gym. I get very depressed, because no matter how hard I try, I just can't get past these plateaus, lost any of the fat or gain any more muscle. I even tried going back onto a deficit diet again, but I just keep putting on fat, not muscle.
In December, I went to a Christmas Party and I had 6 bottles of beer (I normally don't drink more than one). As the evening wore on, I started to get pain and I couldn't urinate at all. Eventually I had to go to the Emergency room and they stuck a catheter in me. I had to see the urologist a few days later, He stuck a rod up my arse and diagnosed a swollen prostate. Told me I had BPH and I should have surgery. I told him to shove his surgery in the same place he had stuck his rod! I went to an acupuncture clinic and it seems a lot better, but sometimes I have to get up several times in the night to visit the bathroom.
From what I have read, I seem to be suffering from two things, low testosterone and too much estradiol. I got blood tests. Doctor refused to test estradiol (only women). My testosterone is just over 400, but he says that's normal for my age, the belly fat and breasts are also normal for my age and why would I want an erection at my age!
I keep thinking of packing in the gym altogether. I'm just getting nowhere fast, but I keep forcing myself to carry on. Doctors over here in ultra-conservative Belgium won't help me at all. I found Hardcore Labs in the EU, so i COULD get steroids, but what and how much? Anything even remotely resembling herbs or medicine from outside of the EU gets instantly confiscated by our paranoid Customs, with threats of prosecution!
Question is, what should I get and how much should I take. I can't see any other way to solve this problem other than to go it alone, so some advice would be nice.
It would be nice to have some sex drive again. I would be nice if I could lose all this excess fat. It would be nice if I could feel like a real person again and focus properly and get a bit of enthusiasm back. They would be the main objectives. I cant see myself competing in Mr Universe, so any increase in lean Body Mass would be nice but very secondary to the main points above.
Can anyone give me some advice, or do I have to go it alone and hope for the best. I can give you my blood results (for what they are worth)
NO E2,
Testosterone 405
TSH 3.56
That's about all that relevant.
I try to keep away from doctors. It's in their interest to keep people sick so they keep getting visits and it keeps the pharm companies in business if they can keep you on pills with all their side effects for the rest of your life. I sometimes think that they also have an interest in getting rid of the elderly, so that they can clear a path for more immigrants and asylum seekers, that are flooding the whole of Europe.
When I was a young man, back in the 1960's I was a competitive Judoka. I used to do a lot af weight training for my sport. One could say that I was also a bodybuilder as well. At my peak, I weighed 110 kg and being VERY active, I had very little fat. From 1975, I started my own business and because of work, I had to give up Judo and the gym. I was never sick other than a cold from time to time. I caught typhoid in 1980, and I ended up in hospital for several weeks. Then I had a car accident and broke my pelvis and was incapacitated for some time. That's the only times I was ever really sick. After 1980, I got involved with computers and software and so for the rest of my working life, I was chained behind a desk, so I started to put on weight - lots of it!
When I retired and got some free time, I decided to join a gym. It took a long time to find one that we could afford, but eventually in October 2013 we got started. I worked out routines, based on what I had done under the guidance of professional bodybuilder in my youth.
When I started, I weighed 137 kgs. We both ran a diet of chicken breast, fish, steak and liver. We dropped sugar and tried to keep saturated fat way down. I'm 1.95m tall, I used to be 1.98m, but somewhere down the years I seem to have lost 3 cm! In November we read about Creatine, so we started on Creatine and I picked up 5 kgs in the first month!
by 1 March this year, I had got my weight down to 100 kgs. So I actually lost 37 kg + the 5 kgs from the Creatine. I was incredibly skinny. It was so bad that my wife urged me to start eating properly again. Her comment was "if you were a dog, the SPCA would have me arrested for cruelty and they would euthanase you!"
I spite of the skinny body, I still had a mass of fat around my lower belly and a lot around my pecs. Looking on the web, I seemed to have a case of gyno, but it isn't hard or tender, just fat.
I started a diet to gain Lean Body Mass on 1 May 2014. My program set me on 1 kg per month and upped my diet to 200 calories surplus, rather than the 1500 - 2000 calorie deficit that I had been on. The weights that I could push increased, quite a lot. When I started, I struggled to Bench 35kgs, but since I started in October, I had got it to 55 kgs, but only 3 reps.
In just 4 months, my wight shot up to 112 kgs, my Bench has gone from 3 x 55 to 4 x 65. All my other weights have gone up by similar amounts. I have gained a bit of muscle according to the BF measurements, 2 kgs. The rest is FAT.
I haven't had an erection for almost 2 years. i have no interest in sex at all. My hair is thick, brown and shoulder length, most of my pubic hair is gone and body hair is gone also. I'm perpetually tired and I have to force myself to go to the gym. I get very depressed, because no matter how hard I try, I just can't get past these plateaus, lost any of the fat or gain any more muscle. I even tried going back onto a deficit diet again, but I just keep putting on fat, not muscle.
In December, I went to a Christmas Party and I had 6 bottles of beer (I normally don't drink more than one). As the evening wore on, I started to get pain and I couldn't urinate at all. Eventually I had to go to the Emergency room and they stuck a catheter in me. I had to see the urologist a few days later, He stuck a rod up my arse and diagnosed a swollen prostate. Told me I had BPH and I should have surgery. I told him to shove his surgery in the same place he had stuck his rod! I went to an acupuncture clinic and it seems a lot better, but sometimes I have to get up several times in the night to visit the bathroom.
From what I have read, I seem to be suffering from two things, low testosterone and too much estradiol. I got blood tests. Doctor refused to test estradiol (only women). My testosterone is just over 400, but he says that's normal for my age, the belly fat and breasts are also normal for my age and why would I want an erection at my age!
I keep thinking of packing in the gym altogether. I'm just getting nowhere fast, but I keep forcing myself to carry on. Doctors over here in ultra-conservative Belgium won't help me at all. I found Hardcore Labs in the EU, so i COULD get steroids, but what and how much? Anything even remotely resembling herbs or medicine from outside of the EU gets instantly confiscated by our paranoid Customs, with threats of prosecution!
Question is, what should I get and how much should I take. I can't see any other way to solve this problem other than to go it alone, so some advice would be nice.
It would be nice to have some sex drive again. I would be nice if I could lose all this excess fat. It would be nice if I could feel like a real person again and focus properly and get a bit of enthusiasm back. They would be the main objectives. I cant see myself competing in Mr Universe, so any increase in lean Body Mass would be nice but very secondary to the main points above.
Can anyone give me some advice, or do I have to go it alone and hope for the best. I can give you my blood results (for what they are worth)
NO E2,
Testosterone 405
TSH 3.56
That's about all that relevant.
I try to keep away from doctors. It's in their interest to keep people sick so they keep getting visits and it keeps the pharm companies in business if they can keep you on pills with all their side effects for the rest of your life. I sometimes think that they also have an interest in getting rid of the elderly, so that they can clear a path for more immigrants and asylum seekers, that are flooding the whole of Europe.
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