Can NPP and Test be dosed equally?

[Ocdude]

450 at 3 times a week, EOD would be 525. 120mg EOD would be 420/week, 130 is 455/week.

Yeah I tend to automatically go M-W-F, because its just easier to keep track of haha. Otherwise I have to keep referring to my google spreadsheet!

Yeah I hate using WU as well it freaks me out a bit. I will check out RUI I guess, unless my guy in town has it he still hsn't answered. Oh and any idea what those injection lumps are? I know it's the Deca not absorbing but why? It didn't do that at all the first 3-4 weeks. Then all the sudden big soft lumps in my hip where I pinned that would last 2-3 days.

The WU thing is kinda part of the game these days unfortunately, unless you're going with your local guy who marks his stuff up 50-100%. Got me on the deca lumps, though... no experience there but that sounds really odd. My only question would be what length needle were you using?

 

[Nerotik]

A 25GX1inch safety glide always inject into the hip alternating sides with each injection. And I use pretty much the full inch, never leave hanging half out. Don't tell me I need to switch to a 22Gx1 1/2 lol
Oh and where is the cheapest place to order syringes and needles?

 

[Rumpy]

By hip do you mean glute or ventroglute?

 

[Nerotik]

Gluteus Medius, I usually have my GF do it since she can reach back there easier than I can lol

 

[Ocdude]

Could be your issue... unless your bf% is super low, 1" just barely gets you into the muscle in the glute/hip area. Plus realistically, depending on where in the "hip", you could be hitting an area thats more fat layer than muscle.

 

[Nerotik]

My BF layer in that spot is maybe .25 of an inch thick. It basically feels like only skin until firm flexed muscle directly underneath. I'm 6' and about200-210 (I fluctuate a lot) maybe 20% BF at most but most of that is around my spare tire area which I am desperate to burn off and even that is still a straight line don from my chest, no real bulge. So should I switch to 1 /12 inch needles? All i can find is 22-23G in that length and where is the best place to buy syringes and needles? Also I suppose if I have to I can pin in my quad, I have never done that though and am curious how much more pain is there? Or in my arm or wherever works for me I guess, i'm just used to the glute so naturally wanna keep pinning there since I don't even feel it anymore.

 

[Nerotik]

Well i found a box of 50 22gx1 1/2 inch safety-glides for 19 bucks so I will order those for my Glutes and use the 1 inch ones for my thigh and shoulder I guess that way i can keep rotating injection sites.
Now I just need to find some Caber since that sounds like a better match for me than Prami does, I tend to get weird side effects from things and if people complain about Prami side effects i don't wanna go there lol. Ok i have another noob question. Given the choice between Deca and NPP which would you choose and why?

 

[Ocdude]

Lol I've read all the prami weirdness and thought the same thing. The truth is everyone reacts differently to every little variation. That's why med trials are so important with FDA approval... To figure out statistically what the most common side effect is and decide if the benefit outweighs the risk for general public.

Clearly, we are NOT general public here! So the research to a certain degree comes down to experimenting within reason and reporting what worked well for you. A lot of this gets boiled down to bro science, but is still very useful data in the grander scheme!

RUI carries what you want and I'll PM you with another option I've tried.

 

[Nerotik]

Nobody has an opinion on Deca vs NPP?

 

[Nerotik]

Ok I am just gonna skip the Caber or Prami for now unless i end up needing it but last time I was on Deca my sex drive was fine so hopefully it will be with NPP as well.

 

[Ocdude]

Drive should be the same... But given the ester half life differences, your injection schedule will look different. Total weight per week can run the same. Deca though tends to want a few extra weeks over NPP.

 

[Nerotik]

Well hopefully with the increase in Test as well it will counter the NPP. I was on 100mg of test c a week and 200mg of Deca 2x a week. Now I will be on 100 or mg of NPP 3x a week and 100-150mg of test 2x a week along with .5mg of Adex EoD. So I think I will be fine and if I have a problem I will order some caber or prami.

 

[GoPro]

Can NPP and Test C be dosed equally at about 50mg-100mg of NPP and 125mg of Test C each once a week in the same pin?

Yes you can run them in the same pin, but i see no reasoning behind these tiny lil doses. You wont do anything but shut yourself down. The only reason i would run such low doses is if i was on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), and still you would not run NPP for a regular TRT.

 

[Nerotik]

I am on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) my normal Test level is about 30, I have had two surgeries on my testicles for hydroceles. And I am only running a low does of Test to begin with because it causes my legs to swell if I increase my dose too fast but I hope to get it up to at least 400 from it's current 100-150 since I take both a weekly injection of just over 100mg and a daily dose of 50mg Testim gel I'm not positive where my level is. I am just gradually increasing it so I can still fit my feet in my shoes lol. Oh and I will be taking 100-120mg of NPP 3x a week and 100-200 mg of Test 2x a week, like I said, hopefully up to 400 or so a week as fast as my body will adjust.