Clomid and Vision Problems!

Popichulo

Alleged Fatass!
OK all this talk about this has either just been fucking with my head or this shit is really happening to me since I am on clomid therapy right now. Well I have 2 questions......
#1 those of you who have suffered vision ploblems with clomid, did your vision correct itself after therapy was stopped ot finished?
#2 I have 6 days left at 50mg ED with Clomid and I dont want my shit to get fucked up worst should I just stop it or Switch to nolvadex for the remainder and if so what dose should I use?

Thanks for any help guys.
 
Permenant vision problems from Clomid are extremely rare. If they were not extremely rare, then we would not recommend Clomid for post cycle therapy (pct) unless Nolvadex did not work for the individual.

Vision problems while taking Clomid are pretty common; I think they are much more common than the 1.5% cited in the Clomid package insert.

It wouldn't hurt for you to continue the Clomid and start taking Nolvadex at 20mg/day. In fact, I suggest it. But just to let you know, you will still have Clomid in your system for at least a couple of weeks due to the long half life.
 
mranak said:
Permenant vision problems from Clomid are extremely rare. If they were not extremely rare, then we would not recommend Clomid for post cycle therapy (pct) unless Nolvadex did not work for the individual.

Vision problems while taking Clomid are pretty common; I think they are much more common than the 1.5% cited in the Clomid package insert.

It wouldn't hurt for you to continue the Clomid and start taking Nolvadex at 20mg/day. In fact, I suggest it. But just to let you know, you will still have Clomid in your system for at least a couple of weeks due to the long half life.
Thanks bro and did you mean for me to DISCONTINUE the clomid or keep taking it and add in Nolvadex?
 
Discontinue it and start up on the Nolvadex at 20mg. This is being overly cautious, but this is what is recommended on the package insert and if you have the Nolva on hand, then why not?
 
YEah I got the nolva already how long should I run the nolva for mranak? The same 6 days or a little longer , the boys are all nice and full and plump already so everything is on its way .
 
You said that you have 6 days left of Clomid, but where you on the 21 day regimen or the 28 day regimen?

You could just run the Nolva at 20mg for 7 days, but it wouldn't hurt to add another 7 days at 10mg, especially if you feel that you might not yet be fully recovered.
 
It was probably in my head but I imagined having vision problems after two days of clomid. My eyes are horrible already, I couldn't afford to let them get worse.



I switched to nolva only, I just feel far better on it.
 
From what i've been told Nolvadex isn't strong enough to post cycle therapy (pct) and should be used for more as an anti estrogen..
comments?

I haven't used clomi yet, What are the vision problems like, cause natrually i can't see shit! :eyes:
 
I just recently got new contacts and my vision was SWEET now ofter about 14days of the reg clomid regemein 300-100-100 etc. im contantly blinking to focus and cant see shit far away like I used to. I hope this shit corrects itself when Im done. Clomid works wonders for me on post cycle therapy (pct) and I would have to not be able to take it, this is the first time ive experienced vision problems with clomid and ive cycled it about 5 times before.
 
big-tymer said:
From what i've been told Nolvadex isn't strong enough to post cycle therapy (pct) and should be used for more as an anti estrogen..
comments?

I haven't used clomi yet, What are the vision problems like, cause natrually i can't see shit! :eyes:

I did a nolva only post cycle therapy (pct) before and it seemed to work well for me.
 
big-tymer said:
From what i've been told Nolvadex isn't strong enough to post cycle therapy (pct) and should be used for more as an anti estrogen..
comments?
Clomid seems to have an edge over Nolvadex for post cycle therapy (pct), but Nolvadex is typically sufficient.
 
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SIDE EFFECTS

Clinical Events

Trial Adverse: Clomiphene citrate, at recommended dosages, is generally well tolerated. Adverse reactions usually have been mild and transient and most have disappeared promptly after treatment has been discontinued. Adverse experiences reported in patients treated with clomiphene citrate during clinical studies are shown in Table 2.

Table 2.

Incidence Of Adverse Events in Clinical Studies
((Events Greater than 1%) > n = 8029* ’)
Adverse Event


%
Ovarian Enlargement

13.6
Vasomotor Flushes

10.4
Abdominal-Pelvic Discomfort/Distention/Bloating

5.5
Nausea and Vomiting

2.2
Breast Discomfort

2.1
Visual Symptoms

Blurred vision, lights, floaters, waves, unspecified visual complaints, photophobia, diplopia, scotomata, phosphenes



1.5
Headache

1.3
Abnormal uterine Bleeding, Intermenstrual spotting, menorrhagia

1.3

Includes 498 patients whose reports may have been duplicated in the event totals and could not be distinguished as such. Also, excludes 47 patients who did not report symptom data.

The following adverse events have been reported in fewer than 1% of patients in clinical trials: Acute abdomen, appetite increase, constipation, dermatitis or rash, depression, diarrhea, dizziness, fatigue, hair loss/dry hair, increased urinary frequency/volume, insomnia, light-headedness, nervous tension, vaginal dryness, vertigo, weight gain/loss.

Patients on prolonged clomiphene citrate therapy may show elevated serum levels of desmosterol. This is most likely due to a direct interference with cholesterol synthesis. However, the serum sterols in patients receiving the recommended dose of clomiphene citrate are not significantly altered. Ovarian cancer has been infrequently reported in patients who have received fertility drugs. Infertility is a primary risk factor for ovarian cancer; however, epidemiology data suggest that prolonged use of clomiphene may increase the risk of a borderline or invasive ovarian tumor.

Postmarketing Adverse Events

The following adverse experiences were reported spontaneously with clomiphene citrate tablets USP. The cause and effect relationship of the listed events to the administration of clomiphene citrate tablets USP is not known.

Dermatologic: Acne, allergic reaction, erythema, erythema multiforme, erythema nodosum, hypertrichosis, pruritus

Central Nervous System: Migraine headache, paresthesia, seizure, stroke, syncope

Psychiatric: Anxiety, irritability, mood changes, psychosis

Visual Disorders: Abnormal accommodation, cataract, eye pain, macular edema, optic neuritis, photopsia, posterior vitreous detachment, retinal hemorrhage, retinal thrombosis, retinal vascular spasm, temporary loss of vision

Cardiovascular: Arrhythmia, chest pain, edema, hypertension, palpitation, phlebitis, pulmonary embolism, shortness of breath, tachycardia, thrombophlebitis

Musculoskeletal: Arthralgia, back pain, myalgia

Hepatic: Transaminases increased, hepatitis

Neoplasms: Liver (hepatic hemangiosarcoma, liver cell adenoma, hepatocellular carcinoma); breast (fibrocystic disease, breast carcinoma); endometrium (endometrial carcinoma); nervous system (astrocytoma, pituitary tumor, prolactinoma, neurofibromatosis, glioblastoma multiforme, brain abcess); ovary (luteoma of pregnancy, dermoid cyst of the ovary, ovarian carcinoma); trophoblastic (hydatiform mole, choriocarcinoma); miscellaneous (melanoma, myeloma, perianal cysts, renal cell carcinoma, Hodgkin’s lymphoma, tongue carcinoma, bladder carcinoma); and neoplasms of offspring (neuroectodermal tumor, thyroid tumor, hepatoblastoma, lymphocytic leukemia)

Genitourinary: Endometriosis, ovarian cyst (ovarian enlargement or cysts could, as such, be complicated by adnexal torsion), ovarian hemorrhage, tubal pregnancy, uterine hemorrhage

Body as a Whole: Fever, tinnitus, weakness

Other: Leukocytosis, th roid disorder.

Fetal/Neoastal Anomalies

The following fetal abnormalities have also been reported during postmarketing surveillance: delayed development; abnormal bone development including skeletal malformations of the skull, face, nasal passages, jaw, hand, limb (ectromelia including amelia, hemimelia, and phocomelia), foot, and joints; tissue malformations including imperforate anus, tracheoesophageal fistula, diaphragmatic hernia, renal agenesis and dysgenesis, and malformations of the eye and lens (cataract), ear, lung, heart (ventricular septal defect and tetralogy of Fallot), and genitalia; as well as dwarfism, deafness, mental retardation, chromosomal disorders, and neural tube defects (including anencephaly).
 
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