Considering a first cycle...critique please...

[FlyingNinja]

So I have been reading on this stuff for a while and I am considering a cycle for later on this year around August. This is a possible cycle I have in mind. Let me know if this would work or what I might want to change. I want to keep it as simple as possible.

Test E 350-400mg a week...10 weeks total(2 shots a week)

Clomid week 13-16(100/100/50/50)

Nolva on hand in case of gyno during cycle. Wondering about HCG...read mixed thoughts on this. It seems like it would be better suited towards longer cycles? But since mine is relatively short and mild would this be necessary?

 

[rocko3927]

cycle is solid. def stick to one compound your first run.but what are your stats? age, weight, height, years training, bf, and is your diet on point. have you read the , am i ready for gear sticky, it's a great resource for someone thinking about running gear.

 

[rocko3927]

run the hcg with the test. 500 iu per week during your cycle. read up on it and you will understand why it is so beneficial. just my opinion.......

 

[FlyingNinja]

thanks for the input...as far as stats...

27 yo
5'10
175lbs
around 13-14% bf
I have been training on and off for years. Past 3 years have been serious focusing on strength training and speed/explosiveness. Few injuries have slowed me down a little.
Diet right now is around 38p/37c/25f. Looking to trim down a little bit slowly while maintaining strength. I still have some goals to reach before I try test but I think I may be there around Aug-Sept.

As far as HCG would I just pin it with my two test shots each week? Or do it seperately sub-q? Honestly since it is my first time...pinning has me a bit nervous. The more simple I can keep this the better. The mixing and extra pinning of HCG is a bit confusing right now. And if not necessary or worth the trouble I would like to stay away...

 

[Stick & Move]

Do like Rocko said and read up on hcg. I believe it's a must for every cycle. Keeps you natty test going.

 

[coolhandjames]

the first time i read under your user ID i fuckin laughed hard

 

[FlyingNinja]

Any more input? Also anyone use anything besides clomid for PCT? Not too crazy about how the sides sound...

 

[rocko3927]

i only use toremefine works great with no sides,,,,pin the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) when you do your test shots.. you wanna run gear you better get used to it. it's nothing and the amount your crying about......well u sound like a little girl......

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

Very solid advise. Fyi 400mg a week put my test levels around 1950. thats double the normal range.

 

[thetruepitbull]

Makes sense considering 200mg is the upper limit for TRT.

 

[Cobra Strike]

if your gonna use clomid then go 50/50/50/50...100 is too high bro..you could get blurred or double vision...

Id go with the tore like rocko said

as far as nolva goes on cycle...nolva is not an anti e bro...get yourself a real Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like aromasin and run it at 12.5mg/eod...you dont have to start it until signs appear but when/if you do start it then run it all the way through the end of your pct...

as far as hcg...its not recommended on your first cycle although I would recommend it at the end....get a vial of 5000iu and run it starting the day after your last inject at 500iu/ed for 10 days...you will run out about 4 days prior to pct which is perfect...this will help you get your natty test levels higher and make for an easier recovery

 

[XtotalimmortalX]

if your gonna use clomid then go 50/50/50/50...100 is too high bro..you could get blurred or double vision...

Id go with the tore like rocko said

as far as nolva goes on cycle...nolva is not an anti e bro...get yourself a real Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like aromasin and run it at 12.5mg/eod...you dont have to start it until signs appear but when/if you do start it then run it all the way through the end of your pct...

as far as hcg...its not recommended on your first cycle although I would recommend it at the end....get a vial of 5000iu and run it starting the day after your last inject at 500iu/ed for 10 days...you will run out about 4 days prior to pct which is perfect...this will help you get your natty test levels higher and make for an easier recovery

not trying to derail the thread, just curious why is Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) not recommended on a 1st cycle?