correct me if i'm wrong.....

[supersafado]

Well i am about to place an order for my first cycle. I think i have narrowed it down to what i want to do. I understand that the first cycle should be to learn and understand how you body handles test but this is what i came up with guys let me know if i'm off my rocker,


CYCLE # 1

1-5 dbol. 40mg ED.
1-15 test enanthate 500mg a week.
1-15 Equipoise 250mh week
1-17 Aromasin 12.5mg ED
15-21 Aromasin 25mg ED
13-17 HCG 500iu ED
15-21 clomid 50mg ED
15-19 Nolva 20mg ED
17-23 Nolva 10mg ED

I had surgery on my shoulder about a year ago. It's feeling pretty good but i am still a little nervous about it hence the Equipoise. I think 250mg a week will help with collagen synthesis. Which is my reason for taking it. (which i don't think is a real heavy dosage) I think it will help with lean gains but it does not have extremely high affinity to convert to estrogen. So with the aromasin each day i don't think i should have an issue.

My only problem now is i just need to make sure i can HCG and nolva and my cycle is complete. It's amazing how hard it is (for me) to find HCG. Still not many BB are using it where i am at.


STATS:
height 6'0
weight 195 lbs
BF % 14

 

[DADAWG]

Well i am about to place an order for my first cycle. I think i have narrowed it down to what i want to do. I understand that the first cycle should be to learn and understand how you body handles test but this is what i came up with guys let me know if i'm off my rocker,


CYCLE # 1

1-5 dbol. 40mg ED.
1-15 test enanthate 500mg a week.
1-15 Equipoise 250mh week
1-17 Aromasin 12.5mg ED
15-21 Aromasin 25mg ED
13-17 HCG 500iu ED
15-21 clomid 50mg ED
15-19 Nolva 20mg ED
17-23 Nolva 10mg ED

I had surgery on my shoulder about a year ago. It's feeling pretty good but i am still a little nervous about it hence the Equipoise. I think 250mg a week will help with collagen synthesis. Which is my reason for taking it. (which i don't think is a real heavy dosage) I think it will help with lean gains but it does not have extremely high affinity to convert to estrogen. So with the aromasin each day i don't think i should have an issue.

My only problem now is i just need to make sure i can HCG and nolva and my cycle is complete. It's amazing how hard it is (for me) to find HCG. Still not many BB are using it where i am at.


STATS:
height 6'0
weight 195 lbs
BF % 14

test eth or cyp needs to be run 1 week longer than eq due to the length of the esters , start post cycle therapy (pct) / clomid therapy 2 weeks after the last test / 3 weeks after the last eq inject.

this cycle is way to complicated for a 1st cycle , if you want to run 2 steroids and want eq then drop dbol and run eq at 500 mg a week . if your using aromasin at the start then stick with aromasin , i see no advantage in switching to adex.

 

[supersafado]

Thanks for the reply. That is mostly a typo error. That was originally a 12 week cycle and I bumped it to 15 weeks.

I didn't know about cutting the eq short. So that helped.

I also don't know where you got the adex from. I am sticking with aromasin from start to finish clear though post cycle therapy (pct).

If I am gonna drop something I will probably drop the kick start of dbol.

I don't think this is overly complicated but maybe that cuz I'be talked myself into believing that. Ha.

 

[DADAWG]

Thanks for the reply. That is mostly a typo error. That was originally a 12 week cycle and I bumped it to 15 weeks.

I didn't know about cutting the eq short. So that helped.

I also don't know where you got the adex from. I am sticking with aromasin from start to finish clear though post cycle therapy (pct).

If I am gonna drop something I will probably drop the kick start of dbol.

I don't think this is overly complicated but maybe that cuz I'be talked myself into believing that. Ha.

i hasd a senior moment and confused your post with something else lol.i see that its aromasin from start to finish.

 

[supersafado]

CYCLE # 1

1-5 dbol. 40mg ED. 1-15 test enanthate 500mg a week. 1-14 Equipoise 250mg week 1-17 Aromasin 12.5mg ED 18-21 Aromasin 25mg ED 16-17 HCG 500iu ED 18-21 clomid 50mg ED 18-19 Nolva20mg ED 20-23 Nolva10mg ED

Fix and repost.

 

[DADAWG]

i would still drop the dbol but its you call

 

[Thedude67]

I wuldnt run the hcg with ur post cycle therapy (pct). Go wit a 10 day blast after ur last test shot then wait 4 days n start pct

 

[supersafado]

yeah dawg, i hear ya. and that's probably what i will do. this was just the initial thought. Maybe for a later cycle. all three might be a bit much.

1-5 dbol. 40mg ED.
1-15 test enanthate 500mg a week.
1-14 eq 250mg week
1-17 Aromasin 12.5mg ED
18-21 Aromasin 25mg ED
16-17 HCG 500iu ED
18-21 clomid 50mg ED
18-19 Nolva 20mg ED
20-23 Nolva 10mg ED


wow. you wouldn't think it would be so hard to get a cycle down on paper. (or a post)

corrected again.

agreed. HCG for 10 days actually. then 4 days off then post cycle therapy (pct). that's how it was originally planned. i am just having a hell of a time typing it out.

 

[TGB1987]

yeah dawg, i hear ya. and that's probably what i will do. this was just the initial thought. Maybe for a later cycle. all three might be a bit much.

1-5 dbol. 40mg ED.
1-15 test enanthate 500mg a week.
1-14 eq 250mg week
1-17 Aromasin 12.5mg ED
18-21 Aromasin 25mg ED
16-17 HCG 500iu ED
18-21 clomid 50mg ED
18-19 Nolva 20mg ED
20-23 Nolva 10mg ED


wow. you wouldn't think it would be so hard to get a cycle down on paper. (or a post)

corrected again.

agreed. HCG for 10 days actually. then 4 days off then post cycle therapy (pct). that's how it was originally planned. i am just having a hell of a time typing it out.

I think running EQ at 250mgs a wk is a complete waste of time. Most don't feel anything until 600mgs/wk but 400mgs is at least something noticable. I would only run the dbol for 4 wks or none at all. I like that you are using Aromasin because it is the best Aromatase inhibitor (AI) IMO. It is easier on the lipids than adex and letro. It does a great job at controling E2 without overkilling. Aromasin is a Type II Aromatase inhibitor (AI) meaning it is steroidal prevents estro rebound, and acts as a light androgen. I would use HCG during cycle not after. Hcg will keep your testes stimulated during cycle and prevent total shutdown making Recovery easier. Drop Nolva from PCT . Nolva inhibits IGF1 which is the last thing you want during post cycle therapy (pct). PCT should be Aromasin and CLomid for optimal benfit. Run it like this

Aromasin at 25/25/12.5/12.5mgs ed with Clomid at 100/100/75/50mgs ed. Aromasin will prevent estro rebound after post cycle therapy (pct). This is the ideal PCT IMO and works great for me. Make sure you have everything right before you start or you may be sorry. Good Luck my friend.

 

[supersafado]

Well the point of the eq is for collagen synthesis and Equipoise @ 3 mg/kg (which for me is around 300mg) will increase procollagen III by approximately 340%. Which procollagen III is a primary indicator used to determine the rate of collagen syn.

Where this is a first cycle the idea is not have too many compounds and and over do it. But have enough where I can get the benefit of of collagen synthesis.

But maybe I have it figured wrong.

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

drop the EQ an the dbol. and your golden.