critique my bulking diet

[valiantmiller16]

ok guys i am currently bulking and plan to stay alot leaner than in previous years and keeping my calories around 3500 per day this is what my diet looks like i don't track macros when bulking as to be honest i don't feel it's needed.

meal 1: 100g oatmeal (with water) 1 scoop whey protein 1 tbsp jam

meal 2: 200g fish (usually salmon or barrumundi) 150g sweet potato

meal 3: 200g chicken breast 1 cup brown rice with soy sauce

post workout: 2 pieces fruit 2 scoops whey

meal 4: wholegrain chicken sandwich with 1 slice cheese and 2 eggs

meal 5: 200g lean steak with around 2 tbsp hommus and veggies

meal 6: 2 scoops whey before bed hardly a meal lol

how does this sound to you guys? i put the chicken sandwich in to keep my sanity because i'm obsessed with bread so having it once a day shouldn't hurt. this is usually alot less calories than i have had in past bulks but i gained far too quickly i am looking at keeping the fat gain to a minimum this time around. i supplement with a few grams flaxseed daily with the obvious multis and other vits currently off cycle.

 

[Welter]

I know you said you don't feel the need to keep track of macros during a bulk and if your eating clean I could understand that thought but just at a quick glance that doesn't look like 3500 cal. I would double check those just to make sure your getting the right amount of cals then tweak from there.

Btw: if that is 3500 cals and you know your eating above maintenence levels then looks pretty clean.

 

[valiantmiller16]

I know you said you don't feel the need to keep track of macros during a bulk and if your eating clean I could understand that thought but just at a quick glance that doesn't look like 3500 cal. I would double check those just to make sure your getting the right amount of cals then tweak from there.

Btw: if that is 3500 cals and you know your eating above maintenence levels then looks pretty clean.

yeah it may be pushing it for 3500 cals but i have been eating like this for around 2 weeks now and gained 1.5 pounds which is what i'm looking for before i would gain over 2 pounds a week easy sometimes i'm trying to limit fat so aslong as i'm retaining by bodyfat % but going up on the scale i'm pretty happy i think lol anything you would change with the diet?

 

[ellen104]

yeah it may be pushing it for 3500 cals but i have been eating like this for around 2 weeks now and gained 1.5 pounds which is what i'm looking for before i would gain over 2 pounds a week easy sometimes i'm trying to limit fat so aslong as i'm retaining by bodyfat % but going up on the scale i'm pretty happy i think lol anything you would change with the diet?

yeah, totally agreed

 

[3J]

i'd get macros checked.. but off the top of my head.. u need to switch that last meal up.. that whey shake runs through ur system in 2hrs tops... i would switch to casein at the least

 

[valiantmiller16]

i'd get macros checked.. but off the top of my head.. u need to switch that last meal up.. that whey shake runs through ur system in 2hrs tops... i would switch to casein at the least

from what i have read a whey or cassien shake before bead is perfect for slow releasing protein i am yet to see a study which states whey goes through the system in 2 hours although if you no something i don't pass the knowledge on brother! i usually do stick with cassien but i ran out and am low on money at them moment so i figured whey isn't all that different.

 

[3J]

from what i have read a whey or cassien shake before bead is perfect for slow releasing protein i am yet to see a study which states whey goes through the system in 2 hours although if you no something i don't pass the knowledge on brother! i usually do stick with cassien but i ran out and am low on money at them moment so i figured whey isn't all that different.

i'd like to see what u read about whey being a slow digesting protein.. casein is.. i know that for a fact.. but way was ment to be a fast digesting protein taken pwo to shuttle nutrients to your muscles..

i'd have to say u double check what u read.. or check the credibility on it..

 

[valiantmiller16]

i'd like to see what u read about whey being a slow digesting protein.. casein is.. i know that for a fact.. but way was ment to be a fast digesting protein taken pwo to shuttle nutrients to your muscles..

i'd have to say u double check what u read.. or check the credibility on it..

well both whey and cassien make up alot of the protein in milk if i'm not mistaken whey is the majority of the protein you get in milk, i no whey is a faster form of protein than casien and casien would be optimum for a night shake but i'm 100% certain whey does not leave your system in 2 hours as that would be like saying milk is a fast digesting protein which is gone after 2 hours which it is not, to be honest i've never actually heard anyone say whey leaves your system after 2 hours and i study pt at tafe lol.

 

[Welter]

well both whey and cassien make up alot of the protein in milk if i'm not mistaken whey is the majority of the protein you get in milk, i no whey is a faster form of protein than casien and casien would be optimum for a night shake but i'm 100% certain whey does not leave your system in 2 hours as that would be like saying milk is a fast digesting protein which is gone after 2 hours which it is not, to be honest i've never actually heard anyone say whey leaves your system after 2 hours and i study pt at tafe lol.

Thats incorrect, the majority is casein the percentages are about 80/20%. Ive seen many reports but no hard and fast facts but everything Ive read says whey absorbs between 20 minutes and 2 hours. I don't think anyone said it leaves your body but whey absorbs much much faster. Casein lasts as long as 7 hours whey as long as 2.

Milk in general is considered a casein protein because of the significant % of casein it contains. Although overall its a pretty small amount of protein (about 8g per cup)

 

[valiantmiller16]

Thats incorrect, the majority is casein the percentages are about 80/20%. Ive seen many reports but no hard and fast facts but everything Ive read says whey absorbs between 20 minutes and 2 hours. I don't think anyone said it leaves your body but whey absorbs much much faster. Casein lasts as long as 7 hours whey as long as 2.

Milk in general is considered a casein protein because of the significant % of casein it contains. Although overall its a pretty small amount of protein (about 8g per cup)

your correct i just looked it up lol i was mistaken, however where is this information coming from about whey leaving the system in 2 hours? i have never heard this before and if there isn't proof then i don't see it as being relevent, i will be getting a casien tub soon anyway i think but is the whey leaving in 2 hours actual fact or theory?

 

[Welter]

Again I'm not sure anyone has stated it leaves the body in 2 hours. The fact is we eat every two to three hours because we want out bodies to have a steady supply of protein. If you don't subscribe to this theory then have at it. But there is no disputing whey and casein are completely different and have their own qualities. Why come on a site and ask for advice then argue with the advice ? Google is your friend.