Critique My Cycle PLEASE and Thank you

[ketogenicbulldog]

Instead of just guessing or developing theories why not just get bloods done frequently throughout your cycle and at the end before and during clomid.

Let us know your results and what you're doing with your AI and make a contribution towards a great community.

I personally think it would be hard without bloods to know what you're body is doing when so many things are changing after cycle

 

[luckypaul]

yeah ill just use HCG durig my whole cycle till 3 days before pct and use aromasin during pct along with clomid just not sure if I should also use nolva (so all 3)

What you are saying makes sense, in that there will be a spike in E2. I have never use an AI during pct though. It is controlled by the serms you are using. Use nolva and clomid.

I can't say for sure if using an AI during this time would cause any negative affects. Like I said I have never used it like that before.

I don't think that E2 levels would reach a high enough level to warrant the use of an AI like it will while running a cycle with aromatizing AAS's. Relative to test E2 is going to be high though.

If you use one or not is entirely up to you.

 

[Nightmare007]

OK well...

This is approximately how the thread went on the other forum, except it devolved more quickly due to those bros having less patience for someone asking for input/critique then ignoring it and regurgitating broscience as if it was his own, educated research.

He then starts insisting he is right, making more un-based arguments and got banned.

That's why I chose this forum when I joined

 

[Nightmare007]

What you are saying makes sense, in that there will be a spike in E2. I have never use an AI during pct though. It is controlled by the serms you are using. Use nolva and clomid.

I can't say for sure if using an AI during this time would cause any negative affects. Like I said I have never used it like that before.

I don't think that E2 levels would reach a high enough level to warrant the use of an AI like it will while running a cycle with aromatizing AAS's. Relative to test E2 is going to be high though.

If you use one or not is entirely up to you.

On that note technically aromasin can be used during pct unlike adex but it's not recomended

 

[luckypaul]

On that note technically aromasin can be used during pct unlike adex but it's not recomended

Like i said I have never used it in my pct, and I have never found it to be necessary, but if someone feels so strongly about using it at that time I am not going to argue with him about it. I don't think it will interfere with getting his natural testosterone back up do you? Is it really worth getting this bent out of shape over? I have seen some pretty fucking stupid arguments before and this is one of them.

I can see how something this trivial gets blown completely out of proportion and people get banned from boards seeing how we are all on steroids.

 

[luckypaul]

On that note technically aromasin can be used during pct unlike adex but it's not recomended

I have always used adex and it works fine. Again we are splitting hair. They both work. If someone is hell bent on using aromasin by all means do. I find it hard to believe this this would be the catalyst that would get a person banned. Only on a board in which everyone is using steroids could this happen. Now that is funny!

LP

 

[Chlamydia]

As an interesting aside, his handle on the other forum was "Jizzbrah" ...he then got banned, changed IPs somehow and came back as Manmore...only to get banned again.

see your so fucking stupid you and your clown forum that got be banned.. go read my 1st post I never asked if I should use adex
I said critique my gear on how to use it best.. you said not to use HCG during PCT and I think I wont,,

the other guy tells em to use Adex instead of aromasin and I tell him im not using adex when aromasin is far superior + Idont have fucking adex I have aromasin on hand and wanted to know how to use that gear best. (on cycle or cycle+pct or just pct)

then the retard bans me over a private PM , you snow dont even know the real reason stfu I never changed my IP's that retarded mode just power tripped when I sent him a PM saying aromasin is a better AI than adex, he gets mad saying I dont listen to advice when I didnt ask for his fucking advice on adex but only what the gear I have on hand is what you and him seem to miss the point

 

[Chlamydia]

The point of using an ai(aromatase inhibitor) on cycle is keep your estrogen levels within normal range.when you have exogenous test in your system you body tries to conver it into estrogen by releasing an enzyme called aromatase the use of an ai is to prevent this,when in the pct stage your natural testosterone levels are very low aswell as estrogen levels if you use an ai during pct this will cause a shitload of issues as you're pushing your estrogen levels below normal

is Estrogen really that low during PCT even if used an AI while on cycle ? to not need to further use Aromasin during pct if already used it on cycle is that what you are saying?
can anyone else confirm

whats your take on using aromasin off cycle on its own?

 

[Chlamydia]

I have always used adex and it works fine. Again we are splitting hair. They both work. If someone is hell bent on using aromasin by all means do. I find it hard to believe this this would be the catalyst that would get a person banned. Only on a board in which everyone is using steroids could this happen. Now that is funny!

LP

Bro Adex is a thing of the past.............. Adex is old while aromasin is fairly new and is a huge improvment over dex
Adex has an estrogen rebound effect when you stop while Aromasin does not thats the key thing about aromasin
so why would you want to use adex over aromasin ? but you know what I think I will agree that maybe i shouldnt do aromasin for pct as i will be already using it during the cycle so I should be good without it, however I did read alotta people saying aromasin on pct helped alot with recovery and libido remained during pct which is almost unheard of , that was my main reason to try it during pct as the last simmple clomid/novla pct i had.. i was zero libido for 6 weeks so I just been looking for ways to have decent sex drive during pct and everyone who ran aromasin during pct reported good sex drive but anyways

my new cycle will look like this

1-10 weeks of test prop @150mg eod
5-10 anavar @ 40mg
1-10 Aromasin @ 12.5mg
1-10 HCG 250UI @ 2 x a week

3days after last prop shot ill start pct with nolva and clomid and hcgenerate for the libido

 

[luckypaul]

Bro Adex is a thing of the past.............. Adex is old while aromasin is fairly new and is a huge improvment over dex
Adex has an estrogen rebound effect when you stop while Aromasin does not thats the key thing about aromasin
so why would you want to use adex over aromasin ? but you know what I think I will agree that maybe i shouldnt do aromasin for pct as i will be already using it during the cycle so I should be good without it, however I did read alotta people saying aromasin on pct helped alot with recovery and libido remained during pct which is almost unheard of , that was my main reason to try it during pct as the last simmple clomid/novla pct i had.. i was zero libido for 6 weeks so I just been looking for ways to have decent sex drive during pct and everyone who ran aromasin during pct reported good sex drive but anyways

my new cycle will look like this

1-10 weeks of test prop @150mg eod
5-10 anavar @ 40mg
1-10 Aromasin @ 12.5mg
1-10 HCG 250UI @ 2 x a week

3days after last prop shot ill start pct with nolva and clomid and hcgenerate for the libido

I like your new cycle brother. Enjoy! It looks good start to finish.

LP

 

[snowpatrol123]

see your so fucking stupid you and your clown forum that got be banned.. go read my 1st post I never asked if I should use adex
I said critique my gear on how to use it best.. you said not to use HCG during PCT and I think I wont,,

Cool it killer.

I. Didn't. Ever. Mention. Adex. Get it through your head.

 

[Chlamydia]

He then starts insisting he is right, making more un-based arguments and got banned.

ok so Aromasin isnt as good as Adex ?

I know you werent the one that said that but you keep bringing up that I dont listen to advice and start insisting that im right

im right about aromasin being a much better AI and the only AI that can be used during pct that will cause benefitical effects
so tell me im wrong ? if im right then stfu with your comments

I do listen to advice but when I know something is true while some idiot gives me advice to use adex instead why the hell would I take his advice?

 

[Nightmare007]

Like i said I have never used it in my pct, and I have never found it to be necessary, but if someone feels so strongly about using it at that time I am not going to argue with him about it. I don't think it will interfere with getting his natural testosterone back up do you? Is it really worth getting this bent out of shape over? I have seen some pretty fucking stupid arguments before and this is one of them.

I can see how something this trivial gets blown completely out of proportion and people get banned from boards seeing how we are all on steroids.

Using it in your pct WILL cause problems he's crush his estrogen levels

 

[luckypaul]

Using it in your pct WILL cause problems he's crush his estrogen levels

This is a good time to exit this thread. Enjoy friends

 

[Nightmare007]

I agree I'm at my wits end as this guys determined to screw it up

 

[Chlamydia]

ok fine I wont do aromasin while in pct


but can anyone explain how aromasin off cycle byitself can raise test as this guy claimed it did for him
which is teh whole reason why I keep asking if I should use it in pct if off cycle it did wonders

The Great Aromasin Experiment!

 

[Nightmare007]

It can raise test but not by much you'll be better off using clomid off cycle as a test booster
You're better off without an ai off cycle

 

[Nightmare007]

And dude I have a sticky explaining all this give it a read

 

[SamSport]

ok fine I wont do aromasin while in pct


but can anyone explain how aromasin off cycle byitself can raise test as this guy claimed it did for him
which is teh whole reason why I keep asking if I should use it in pct if off cycle it did wonders

The Great Aromasin Experiment!

Never heard of aromasin raising test levels, never looked into it in fact. If you dont have any estrogen issue during pct I dont see the reason to run aromasin. Also I'd run the cycle 8 weeks. Clomid is enough for pct

 

[Chlamydia]

Never heard of aromasin raising test levels, never looked into it in fact. If you dont have any estrogen issue during pct I dont see the reason to run aromasin. Also I'd run the cycle 8 weeks. Clomid is enough for pct

well read it was posted by a member from another forum that im on

basically he had nothig else in his system while he did aromasin for 3months at 12.5mg ED
his last test+pct were a year before he did aromasin on its own

Baseline:
Total Test 12.7 (8.4-28.8)
Free Test 23.1 (31-94)
Estradiol 163 (<150)
SHBG 24.7 (10-70)

After:
Total Test 33.7 (8.4-28.8) - WOW!
Free Test 72.7 (31-94)
Estradiol 131 (<150)
SHBG 33.7 (10-70)


so aromasin on its own increased test very nicely

hence why I was thinking of using it in PCT


but I think you guys can agree that it makes more sense to use aromasin during PCT '' IF it was not already used while on a test cycle'' so basically if im gonna be doing aromasin while on test then I prolly shouldnt do it in pct but If was running test on its own without an AI then its a good idea to use aromasin in pct correct?


or is still still better to run aromasin while on test and for pct as well