Cutting Cycle Help and Dosages questions

[llatusabes007]

Sup Gents,

Here is a quick intro and stats.

Age- 35
Height -6' 1''
weight - 221lbs 18% - 20% body-fat
Training Experience - 13 yrs
Steroid use - Knowledgeable regarding profiles but not dosages or best options to accomplish goals.
1 test cycle under my belt about 9 yrs ago.

Took a year off and my shape went to hell. However, I've been training like a madman for the past 15 wks and feeling good - body is close to where I left off before I let myself get out of shape.

Goals - I am comfortable with my my size. I am working towards leaning down to 9-14% body fat and keep as much muscle as I can in the process. I am on track with diet, and have dropped a good 27lbs so far - naturally.

I have already purchased a 8 wk cutting cycle w/ PCTand have attached it to this post. Please see chart.

Is there anything on that chart I should drop or add before starting? Does this look like a decent cutting cycle?

Dosage questions:

1) Test Prop 25ML - how many CC's would it take to equal 50/mg dosage in each injection?

2) Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) (2 vials of PREGNYL-5000 IU w/ solvent to mix) - Once mixed with the solvent I plan on extracting and putting into a vial for storage. How many CC's would it take to equal 300-500iu dosage on chart for each injection?

3)Injection site for Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), Glutes or Delts? Needle/Syringe size?

4) Trenbolone 75(10 ML bottle) - how many CC's would it take to equal 75/mg dosage in each injection?

I won't start this cycle until I drop a bit more of fat and get some real feedback.

Thanks!

 

[Hrad]

I'll let the more experienced members comment on your cycle but I'd just like to point out 3), Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is injected subq (into fat) not into muscle.
Nothing wrong with injecting it IM, just that subq is easier.

Good luck with your cycle!

 

[You mad Bro]

Drop the winstrol, extend the tren to 8 weeks and the test to 10 weeks. You could go up to 160mcg on the clen, depends how you respond but experiment with it. The T3 I've never used so I'll let others add input for that.

You need to be running pramipexole at 0.5mg eod to combat progesterone/prolactin sides. The Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) run it 2 weeks before post cycle therapy (pct) and continue into post cycle therapy (pct). (I might be wrong but I think I'm right?) Your post cycle therapy (pct) needs to be for a month, drop the Nolva just run the clomid 40/40/40/40.

I think 1CC is equivalent to 1ml so 2ml would be give you 50mg of test prop which also answers your last question and the guy before me answered your 3rd question, I cba working out question 2 lol. Hope I was of any help.

Edit: You didn't mention your diet, which will be the main factor of any weight loss, please give us some input

 

[llatusabes007]

Drop the winstrol, extend the tren to 8 weeks and the test to 10 weeks. You could go up to 160mcg on the clen, depends how you respond but experiment with it. The T3 I've never used so I'll let others add input for that.

You need to be running pramipexole at 0.5mg eod to combat progesterone/prolactin sides. The Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) run it 2 weeks before post cycle therapy (pct) and continue into post cycle therapy (pct). (I might be wrong but I think I'm right?) Your post cycle therapy (pct) needs to be for a month, drop the Nolva just run the clomid 40/40/40/40.

I think 1CC is equivalent to 1ml so 2ml would be give you 50mg of test prop which also answers your last question and the guy before me answered your 3rd question, I cba working out question 2 lol. Hope I was of any help.

Edit: You didn't mention your diet, which will be the main factor of any weight loss, please give us some input

Thanks for the input. I will consider what you said and drop Winstrol (winny) and use the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) towards the end of my cycle - and yes post cycle therapy (pct) is for a month - didn't include the whole chart on the screen shot. Would you be able to PM me a source for the pramipexole?

Also, you mentioned "1CC is equivalent to 1ml so 2ml would be give you 50mg of test prop" How did you come up with 2ml will give me 50mg? I do understand that 1 ML = 1 CC but not how 2 CC = 50MG of prop...

Also can someone answer my question regarding the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 2 vials of PREGNYL-5000 IU dosage(How many CC's would it take to equal 300-500iu dosage on chart for each injection)?

This is what my diet looks like substituting a variety of lean meat and salads. My initial weight loss regimne was a lot lower on carbs and about 500 calories less. So, as I mentioned b4, already dropped 27lbs naturally. But slowly increasing calories and carbs to conserve muscle

I am taking in about 2400-2800 calories. About 55/35/15 carb/protein/fat ratio. Two days out of the week I will go a bit higher on the carbs.

Meal1- 6eggwhites, 1.5 cup oats, 1 scoop whey, glutamine, Multivitamin

Meal 2- 1 chicken breast, cup of mixed veggie a scoop of whey
Meal 3- Brown Rice, Veggies, 2 chicken Breasts(sometimes substituted w vitargo S2 & whey

Workout

Post workout- Meal 5- Genr Vitargo S2 w Whey

Meal 4- Whole Wheat Pasta, Veggies, 2 Chicken Breasts

Meal 5- lean Steak, glass of skim milk

Meal 6- 2 Tuna on whole wheat, 1 cup cottage cheese

 

[You mad Bro]

Well now you're a lighter man, you'll need to eat less kcals than you previously did when cutting you could probally do it at 2200 kcals. and your diet looks good but I personaly would consider lowering the carb intake a bit more and adding more protein.

I'll PM you a source bro.

 

[llatusabes007]

Excellent. Got the PM but couldn't reply for some reason. Says I do not have permission. Thanks again for the info.

Got the info from the source on the test prop, tren, and HCG dosage - but still kinda hesitant. He says that....

Half ml = 50mg of Test P.

HCG - 1ml = 5.000 IU so 500 IU is 1/10 of 1 ml ...confusing!

Tren - 1ml = 75mg

Another thing, as I read more about T3 it scares the shit out of me! Not many positive reviews and to be quite honest, seems like that drug is only for the brave and experienced. So I think I am going to drop it with the Winstrol (winny). Sucks because I already spent the money!

 

[llatusabes007]

Drop the winstrol, extend the tren to 8 weeks and the test to 10 weeks. You could go up to 160mcg on the clen, depends how you respond but experiment with it. The T3 I've never used so I'll let others add input for that.

You need to be running pramipexole at 0.5mg eod to combat progesterone/prolactin sides. The HCG run it 2 weeks before PCT and continue into post cycle therapy (pct). (I might be wrong but I think I'm right?) Your PCT needs to be for a month, drop the Nolva just run the clomid 40/40/40/40.

I think 1CC is equivalent to 1ml so 2ml would be give you 50mg of test prop which also answers your last question and the guy before me answered your 3rd question, I cba working out question 2 lol. Hope I was of any help.

Edit: You didn't mention your diet, which will be the main factor of any weight loss, please give us some input

Hey You Mad Bro,

Tried to PM you this question but system says "denied" Can you tell me why I should drop the Nolva on this cycle?

 

[llatusabes007]

Drop the winstrol, extend the tren to 8 weeks and the test to 10 weeks. You could go up to 160mcg on the clen, depends how you respond but experiment with it. The T3 I've never used so I'll let others add input for that.

You need to be running pramipexole at 0.5mg eod to combat progesterone/prolactin sides. The HCG run it 2 weeks before PCT and continue into post cycle therapy (pct). (I might be wrong but I think I'm right?) Your PCT needs to be for a month, drop the Nolva just run the clomid 40/40/40/40.

I think 1CC is equivalent to 1ml so 2ml would be give you 50mg of test prop which also answers your last question and the guy before me answered your 3rd question, I cba working out question 2 lol. Hope I was of any help.

Edit: You didn't mention your diet, which will be the main factor of any weight loss, please give us some input

Hey You Mad Bro,

Tried to PM you this question but system says "denied" Can you tell me why I should drop the Nolva on this cycle?

 

[Santaklaus]

Sup Gents,

Here is a quick intro and stats.

Age- 35
Height -6' 1''
weight - 221lbs 18% - 20% body-fat
Training Experience - 13 yrs
Steroid use - Knowledgeable regarding profiles but not dosages or best options to accomplish goals.
1 test cycle under my belt about 9 yrs ago.

Took a year off and my shape went to hell. However, I've been training like a madman for the past 15 wks and feeling good - body is close to where I left off before I let myself get out of shape.

Goals - I am comfortable with my my size. I am working towards leaning down to 9-14% body fat and keep as much muscle as I can in the process. I am on track with diet, and have dropped a good 27lbs so far - naturally.

I have already purchased a 8 wk cutting cycle w/ PCTand have attached it to this post. Please see chart.

Is there anything on that chart I should drop or add before starting? Does this look like a decent cutting cycle?

Dosage questions:

1) Test Prop 25ML - how many CC's would it take to equal 50/mg dosage in each injection?

2) HCG (2 vials of PREGNYL-5000 IU w/ solvent to mix) - Once mixed with the solvent I plan on extracting and putting into a vial for storage. How many CC's would it take to equal 300-500iu dosage on chart for each injection?

3)Injection site for Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), Glutes or Delts? Needle/Syringe size?

4) Trenbolone 75(10 ML bottle) - how many CC's would it take to equal 75/mg dosage in each injection?

I won't start this cycle until I drop a bit more of fat and get some real feedback.

Thanks!

Your test dosage is nowhere near where it needs to be for this cycle. You are injecting 75/mgs of tren EoD and only 50/mgs of Test EoD.. For me that alone is a recipe for disaster. I would be running 150 mgs of test EoD on this cycle minimum. I would also run Proviron instead of the winstrol as well. Winstrol sucks and is very hard on the body and will dry the shit out of you with the clen, Hcg and T3... That's just my 2 cents

 

[Santaklaus]

I promise you I'm right

 

[SquadLeader]

You should of done more research before deciding to get on cycle.

 

[justin h]

you need 50 post before pms are allowed. Since this is your second cycle in over 9 yrs you should start back at the basics. That's a program for a novice/experiencd user. Your are not. Test e at 500mg/wk for atleast 12 weeks, throw some tbol in their for the first 1-4 or 6 weeks since your going for more of a lean look. Theirs alot of other options out their for a "safer" 2nd cycle. Tren alone might just kick your ass.

 

[llatusabes007]

Thanks for all your replys and advice. In regards to getting the cycle before digging deep in research...shoulda, coulda, woulda...but got excited and bought it(i'm sure one of you experts have been there before). With that said, too late for a refund. Now I have a decent cycle sitting in my kitchen cabinet that has grown a mouth and can't stop whispering "use me..use me..your beautiful muscles need me" lol. Seriously, just need help to make the most of my cycle, take it as safely as possible and hopefully reap the rewards in the end.

Santaklaus - going to take up the dosage of the prop and extend as suggested.

Squad leader - "shoulda done more research"...I kno...but read above. As I do my research, I still am happy with the choice I made. PM me bro and help me through this one

Justin h - "back to the basics"...read above. I have been training for a long time - naturally - just need to get over this learning curve as quickly as possible to minimize sides and maximize gains.

 

[justin h]

Thats why their are begginer...novice...advanced cycles. You went from a test cylce 9 yrs ago to a extreme cutting cycle inwhich you have no idea how your body will respond and to which compound it's reacting to. It's a poor excuse to a "learning curve". You could've went test p, masteron, anvar....(DIET). User friendly with very good results. Your cutting cycle, done properly with diet would should get you on stage to compete if you could handle it. Whatever though....like you said, no refunds , make the most of it then. Get bloodwork and have at it.

 

[llatusabes007]

Thats why their are begginer...novice...advanced cycles. You went from a test cylce 9 yrs ago to a extreme cutting cycle inwhich you have no idea how your body will respond and to which compound it's reacting to. It's a poor excuse to a "learning curve". You could've went test p, masteron, anvar....(DIET). User friendly with very good results. Your cutting cycle, done properly with diet would should get you on stage to compete if you could handle it. Whatever though....like you said, no refunds , make the most of it then. Get bloodwork and have at it.

I hear you - and note taken. Just completed blood work yesterday and DR. is aware and will be monitoring throughout. Let me tell you, he scolded me boldly as well. Felt like a 15 yr old again.

Going to drop the Winstrol (winny), and T3 for sure. Still doubting if I should drop the nolva, suggested by You Mad Bro.

I will hold on to the Winstrol (winny) and t3 for someone with the experience to use. I will post pre-cycle pics before my first pin and post cycle once complete.