Cycle Advice - Test, Var, and possibly Win

Klassix

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Hey all, I was just looking for some opinions on what will be my 3rd cycle (if you can really count the first).

Stats
Age: 22
Height: 6'4
Weight: 190-195 (depending on weigh in time, etc.)
BF%: Never been measured, if i had to guess i would say about 18-20 but all my friends believe it to be more like 15. Maybe I'm just hard on myself i don't know. Does anyone know if i can get this tested at goodlife?
Training Experience: 4 years, seriously for about 2.

My first cycle was just silly. Did it about a year ago (May, 2014) and it was just a pro hormone (msten)

My second cycle was a little more planned out but still not smart as I know I didn't do enough research before hand and didn't diet anywhere near correctly. I believe my first pin was approximately mid October and finished right before Christmas. The cycle was:

Test E - 500mg/w (weeks 1-8)
Oral Winstrol - 50mg/d (weeks 2-6)
PCT - don't even know what it was called to be honest, only took the pills for like 2 weeks (yes I know it was dumb, yes I know I got extremely lucky that I have yet to have any extremely negative side effects. I was younger and dumber) Got my blood work done in February and they said other than natural test levels being slightly lower than where they should be everything was in order

I got decent results with this, gained about 20 pounds in a month from the test, didn't see a whole lot from the winstrol but as I said my diet was trash so I'm not surprised. Decent strength gains though. Lost a good amount of it within a couple months from being lazy though.

SO, now for my 3rd cycle, I'm really looking to smarten up this cycle starting by posting here! My goals for the cycle are to hopefully drop my BF% down to 10%-12% and hopefully gain weight up to 200 even and keep it there. I've already done a good amount of planning around this cycle, following 3J's nutritional advice in one of the stickies in the other forms calculating exactly how much to eat for a cutting cycle. The gear I was planning on running is:

Test E - 500mg/w (weeks 1-12)
Anavar - 40 mg/d (weeks 4-10)

I kind of want to add win in there to get more of a hardened look when all the fat is shaved off, but I found I got a lot of negative sides while on the winstrol on my second cycle (bad anxiety and paranoia which I still have, sore joints, decreased libido which stuck around for about 2 months after the cycle was done, etc.); this could have been due to the test I don't really know because I didn't ever do a first "just test" cycle. Ideally I think I would want to avoid the winny, unless you guys think it will be of major aid to me in this. Also I've read most people suggest Test Prop for cutting, from all the things I've read I've always just kind of been partial to E, but again if there's a major benefit to Prop I could make the switch.

I'll have arimidex on hand for this cycle and have either clomid or nolva as a pct, not sure which every post seems to say the other is better. Ideally I would want both but moneys getting tighter and tighter the more I think about the cycle so I would like to avoid that.

Sorry about the novel, and if I forgot to include anything just let me know. Thanks for any opinions in advance!
 
You don't need a cycle -- too young and your brain/endocrine system are still developing. AAS will mess that development up.

You just need to pick up fork and eat some food. And learn how to lift weights. You are "skinny fat".

Google " Body Pod Scan" to get your body fat % checked. It is considered one of the most accurate methods and should cost less than $50. Next most accurate method is to post photos and have us estimate it for you. Try to show legs in your pics too
 
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In the sticky in the other form by Imanewbie95 it says 22 is an acceptable age, no? Even 3J says 23 is acceptable which I turn in September so I could just wait till then. Could you elaborate more on the "skinny fat" paragraph? Thanks though I appreciate the reply!
 
The only 2 things in the FAQ that my post disagreed with was the age and the PCT requirements.

I'm not saying mega is wrong when he says I'm too young, I'm inclined to agree with him, just there's also two other stickies both saying different ages than 25 on that board. I understand the risk of not waiting till I'm 25 but it's also already a little late to be worrying too much because of the lack of research I did before.

And I also agreed with the FAQ where it said its definitely better to take nolva and clomid over just one or the other. I was just asking for opinions on if that was essential, which I guess the FAQ link is right , you can't be too careful when it comes to your health.

Other than that I don't really see what "key points" my post is missing?
 
Skinny Fat:

The medical term for this is "MONW," or meta.bolically obese normal weight -- also known as Skinny Fat. It means you are under lean but over fat -- not enough muscle and too much fat (especially belly fat). It is better to be fat and fit than thin and out of shape.

You are 6'4" 190 lbs with 20% body fat. Sounds like you fit the profile.
 
In the sticky in the other form by Imanewbie95 it says 22 is an acceptable age, no? Even 3J says 23 is acceptable which I turn in September so I could just wait till then. Could you elaborate more on the "skinny fat" paragraph? Thanks though I appreciate the reply!

I applaud you for actually reading the stickies. Thanks for taking the time to so that.

Did you read the second post in the following thread? It is worth reading.

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a.../674832-rippedzilla-s-thread-knowledge-2.html
 
In the sticky in the other form by Imanewbie95 it says 22 is an acceptable age, no? Even 3J says 23 is acceptable which I turn in September so I could just wait till then. Could you elaborate more on the "skinny fat" paragraph? Thanks though I appreciate the reply!

dont take what i say out of context brother... it takes alot more than just being 23 to do a cycle and have it be acceptable..

listen to tron
 
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