Cycle advice

[Bardez]

Hi guys

Have ordered 25 ml of sust 250, 20 ml of deca 200, 60 dbol tabs and 20 t3 tabs. What is the best way to take this gear?

I was thinking of hitting the sust first for say 4-6 weeks then introduce the dbol and the deca. Or is it better to intro dbol and deca with sust first up?

The idea was 500 mg of sust for 12 weeks and 300mg of deca a week with 3 dbol tabs a day for a five day week for 4 weeks and quarter of a t3 tab a day. Does this sound ok?

Would luv your help...

Am 30 years old 194cm 95kg have used 3 times before but never maintained any size been training hard for last 7 months and off and on for around 7 years.
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[Ythrashin]

I suggest doing the D-bol the first 4 weeks and starting the DECA and Sust week one along witht the DBOL. Deca takes awhile to kick in...

 

[Ythrashin]

Make sure you have post cycle therapy (pct) in order and have a Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on-hand in case of estro sides.

May want some cabaser/dostinex or some Prami for prolactin sides caused by the deca...like deca dick.

 

[Bast]

I would drop the Deca and T3 completely, run higher dose of Test instead and use the Dbol first 4 weeks.

Get on some HCG within the first week, 250-500iu's EW and also get the nolva on hand. You might want to look into Igf1-lr3 to include in post cycle therapy (pct). This will help you keep most to all of youre gains.

 

[Onehungrychicken]

No T3 you wont grow.

 

[Wardog]

I would drop the Deca and T3 completely, run higher dose of Test instead and use the Dbol first 4 weeks.

Get on some HCG within the first week, 250-500iu's EW and also get the nolva on hand. You might want to look into Igf1-lr3 to include in post cycle therapy (pct). This will help you keep most to all of youre gains.

Damn, a man who thinks the same way I do. I agree with everything here. Jump with dbol and burn the deca

 

[caladin]

Well you sure dont need the the T3.

What have you used before. What were your first 3 cycles?

 

[Ythrashin]

Why not run the DECA? This is his 3rd cycle and it would only help him gain size and strength.

Fuck using NOLVA during your cycle running DECA or not. GET an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) TO CONTROL ESTROGEN.Preferably Aromasin.. its the better choice to run during a cycle to control estrogen. Nolva is a serm and only blocks estrogen from attaching to receptor. Aromisin prevents estrogen form even being made.

Keep the NOLVA for post cycle therapy (pct). It is after all what it is best for...


I do agree with HCG usage during your cycle. starting no sooner then week 3.

Jump-start your cycle with the Dbol for the frst 4 weeks.50mg ed
Start deca and sust both week 1 with the Dbol.
Run the Sust and deca 12-16 weeks.
SUST at 500-700mg week
Deca at 300-400mg week

Stop both at the same time and start post cycle therapy (pct) 3 WEEKS after last pin.

 

[Bardez]

What if I drop the dbol and stack the deca the sust and I can now get my hands on some tren e? Would that be good?

In the past I have used test and deca and dbols. Also dabbled in some other stuff but not much of it so can't even remember.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

no tren e for you buddy-tren ace only-the deca and sust will be enough-you have to watch the deca closely so you dont get sides-trying to watch that and tren will too much for you to handle at this point in the game.

 

[Bardez]

What if I drop the deca then and just hit the sus and tren? Also what would be the best post cycle therapy (pct) is hcg good and do you use it during cycle?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

you could drop the deca-but you need tren ace not tren e

have you ever done a post cycle therapy (pct) before? I noticed you said you never keep your gains.

must read "my post cycle therapy (pct) protocol" by Swale it is a sticky.

sounds like a simple DBOL sust cycle would be best for you til you learn how to keep your gains.

 

[Bardez]

Why tren ace I wanted tren e cause you only need a shot a week. I don't want to inject EOD. Also how do I find your article on pct?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

at the top of this page there is a sticky called "the classics" inside is "my post cycle therapy (pct) protocol" written by SWALE

tren can cause the worst sides out of all AAS-if you experience bad sides tren e will take 3 weeks to leave your system-so you will have to deal with the sides for 3 weeks. with tren ace it will be out in less than a week.

tren should be saved until you have like 5-6 cycles under your belt.

 

[coldblood303]

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/classics/47024-my-pct-protocol.html

the reason you want tren ace over tren e is cause for your first time you don't know how your body will react. if it goes badly, you want ace because its out of your system much faster. no one wants to suffer through 2 weeks of shitty sides if they don't have to.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

i dont know how to copy paste links with this stupid apple computer!

 

[Bardez]

Ok looks like I will just stick with the deca and sust with dbol also. I will also try for some hcg at 250iu 2 days a week and nolva for post cycle therapy (pct) at 20-40mg a day for 4 weeks. Does that sound good? I'm just scared of taking so much stuff! Can anything go wrong doing this especially hcg and nolva?

 

[Biggin]

Ok looks like I will just stick with the deca and sust with dbol also. I will also try for some hcg at 250iu 2 days a week and nolva for post cycle therapy (pct) at 20-40mg a day for 4 weeks. Does that sound good? I'm just scared of taking so much stuff! Can anything go wrong doing this especially hcg and nolva?

Why are U running gear?? From what I have been reading in this thread, and all the questions Ur asking, and all the help Ur receiving, seems like it's going nowhere but in a big ass circle. I suggest U research and educate Urself until U feel comfortable with the whole AAS issues Ur havin.