Cycle feedback and opinion wk 5

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timed123

New member
Age 27
Exp on and off for 7 years
Bf 15%
5'11
On 10 g of androgel 1% hrt
Started 500 12 wk test cyp on week 5
Started at 184 now 191
Week 3 started adex .25 eod

I am on week 5 of test cyp 500 injecting 2x a week.
First 3 weeks and 4th I put on strength and I guess some size.
By the 3rd/ 4th week I had a lot of water retention was up to 193(fixed this with adex on week 3 and dropped down to 188) high blood pressure now I have oily skin and ball shrinkage slightly.


I went into te cycle on androgel to maintain t levels week 3 I dropped the gel I fig the test cyp should be kicking in by then. I starte adex to prevent bloat.

Training intensity and diet is pretty much on point I'm on a Monday Tuesday Thursday Friday routine. 12 sets for large muscle 9 sets for smaller. I get a great pump after working out.

I think this is a lot of water weight and not muscle people said I look bigger and my strength and endurance is up.



Question is can I have all of these side affects good strength gains and still have under does or bunk gear?

I did a lot of reading and a lot of people said size will come on week 7?

Whatya guys think I'm pretty knowledgable with workout routines and diet can improve but it's not bad what so ever.

Whatya guys think !?

Thanks
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Nah it sounds pretty normal.

First you are on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) so the increase in test will automatically make you gain some weight pretty quick. You will see some larger gains as the cycle goes on. I see my results in e or c in about 3-4 weeks and the gains ramp up until about week 8 or 9 and they slow down. This is why you should run test longer by the way.

May need to up the adex a touch too brother. Doesn't sound like the gear is bunk.

Selling juice is a bitch man. You are taking a big risk already so selling bad shit will only get you caught quicker. It really doesn't pay off to underdose the shit anyways.

What is a person going to take their cost per bottle down from 6 bucks to 4 bucks? It is way too short sighted. Most people just make good stuff so they don't piss people off.

I would imagine that people would be more apt to call the cops on a guy that rips them off versus protecting a source.
 
I hear you man Thanks for the response. I'm hoping week 6 this shit will kick the hell in w the size. I can get my hands on mdrol could I take that let day week 7-9 and hop off of it for a boost?
 
Orals suck and ph's are worse. Run the test and stretch the cycle a few weeks. Can you get another bottle. Make sure you start eating like crazy brother.
 
Truushot said:
Orals suck and ph's are worse. Run the test and stretch the cycle a few weeks. Can you get another bottle. Make sure you start eating like crazy brother.
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Thanks man I am.. I can get another bottle only problem is I am going on vacation in late march my cycle ends march 4th so ima want to start cutting a little in mid febuary so if i extend it I feel like Im going to waste 3 weeks because my diet will be limited for a while. should I just cut anyway and cruise on a lower amount of test for 3 weeks at 250 mg then go back on to 500mg?
 
Nope! Don't do that! Cruising not good in my opinion.

Take a double dose before vacation. Reme er c or e has half life of over 2 weeks.

Eat shitty on vacation but just eat tons! Eat and drink and be merry and when you get home do another pin.

Eating lots is more important than eating clean. Eating too clean stifles gains.

The only time on steroids you need to eat super clean is if you are cutting for a show.

Eat lots of protein! You'll be cool.
 
Truushot said:
Nope! Don't do that! Cruising not good in my opinion.

Take a double dose before vacation. Reme er c or e has half life of over 2 weeks.

Eat shitty on vacation but just eat tons! Eat and drink and be merry and when you get home do another pin.

Eating lots is more important than eating clean. Eating too clean stifles gains.

The only time on steroids you need to eat super clean is if you are cutting for a show.

Eat lots of protein! You'll be cool.
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^^This
The mistake most people make is when they eat clean, their calories drop drastically... but think about it. Its so much harder to get 4, 000+ calories off oatmeal and chicken breasts than pizza, protein shakes and steak.

It comes down to how much you eat, not what you eat (as long as your still hitting your proteins)
 
iLiftForMe said:
^^This
The mistake most people make is when they eat clean, their calories drop drastically... but think about it. Its so much harder to get 4, 000+ calories off oatmeal and chicken breasts than pizza, protein shakes and steak.

It comes down to how much you eat, not what you eat (as long as your still hitting your proteins)
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Awesome advice.
 
Thanks what I meant was I wanna cut a few pounds enforce vacay so let's say cut for 3 or 4 weeks before vacay then go on vacay for 5 nights .. What I'm saying is shoukd I be on the same test injections (500 mg) while I cut before vacation?
 
iLiftForMe said:
^^This
The mistake most people make is when they eat clean, their calories drop drastically... but think about it. Its so much harder to get 4, 000+ calories off oatmeal and chicken breasts than pizza, protein shakes and steak.

It comes down to how much you eat, not what you eat (as long as your still hitting your proteins)
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I think 3J just had a heart attack.
 
My diet is pretty on point I mean I put cheese on my egg whites adds about 5g of fat. I add shit here in there but my diet consist of chicken, brown rice, qouina, Arnold oat bread, fat free milk, tuna sandwiches, protein shakes, some fruits mostly bananas, natural peanut butter.
 
I'm at end of week 6 starting week 7. I want to extend it because I want to cut weight for 4 weeks I'm going on vacay in march and I feel like I'm missing out. The vacay came out of no where not like I knew when I start cycle ... I also want to extend my cycle because I feel like the first vial was good but the second was under doses... I fixed this proble by pickin some up locally from a very reliable source I should have done this in the beginning.

So now I have over 30ml of test and starting week 7 .

I gained a lot of strength, got acne gained water weight and muscle went from 184isb - 191 and been stuck at this weight for 2 or 3 weeks... That's why I think the second vial was underdosed but again I have a new gear.

Sorry to ramble but to answer your question yes I been eating pretty clean and I have seen some progress just think it should be more. This is my first cycle and I also some people don't see the real size until week 7 or 8
 
sounds good man , im doing the same cycle and im on week 5 , having the exact same sides , some atrophy , oily skin , little acne , put on a decent amount of water weight very quickly , strength is up quite a but from pre-cycle . sounds about normal to me
 
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