cycle set up input/suggestions

[Hull Tech]

here's the general layout of what I'm looking at.

Havoc 30/30/30/30
Osta 15mg/ed

pretty basic and should be interesting to see results. here's where it deviates and it's something I just discovered while reading all the stickies I'd never gotten around to reading.

Eq or Deca at LOW levels to promote skeletal and in particular collagen production for tendon growth. As per stonecolds sticky, I should be using no more then 200mg/wk, ( what is the protocol on this stuff eg: daily /wkly..). Will the HAVOC and EQ/deca fight with each other? is this a worth while stack or should I be doing :

Eq/Deca low level, with low level test booster as 1 cycle

Then do a HAVOC cycle seperately

For on cycle support I'm doing a multi pack vitamin, liver care and Krill oil ( it's awesome for controlling HDL/LDL levels even though mine is a combined 4.0)

thanks in advance.

 

[gymrat827]

your are confused bro.

deca or EQ will help muscle collagen but you run them at a normal dose typically. some guys use them @ 200mg a wk for their joints but thats it.....and those guys are exp'd AAS users. you are not one of those.


if you have an injury you are looking to heal look into peptides. IGF1 or MGF. sh!t even GHRP 2 and cjc 1295 would have you healed up in 1/2 the normal time.


osta and havoc should not be used together. the havoc be the only thing really helping you......you would want to take the osta in post cycle therapy (pct). so use the havoc for 4wks, then start the osta in pct.


if you use the EQ/deca run test also....at least 400mg of both for 12-14wks total.


recently ive seen guys using osta to help heal injuries. some say they help with collagen and other related pathways. if you are trying to accomplish this pick up a bottle of osta and use it...during that time research about test/deca/EQ and if real AAS is for you

 

[Hull Tech]

I've run 6 cycles of S4 and Osta it DOES help to heal and blunt attachment pain for sure, but I don't think it's a permanent solution like adding to said connective tissue. I know a few guys in PARA used 'something' steroid based to increase resistance to lower body damage during landings.

As per the sticky yes 200wk/for joints is what I want it for. and your right I have no clue about AAS, this is why I'm asking about protocols for dosing times.

I'm not so much concerned with healing, I'm and Ectomorph that's done allot of heavy work my whole life, carrying a mass of 225-230lbs 8-16% bf for over 20 years takes it toll. I'd like to increase the actual size of both connective tissue and it's related bone anchor points.

I was reading more and Havoc does not like test increases, eg: SARMS. so save that for post cycle therapy (pct) with my Clomid.

But you've given a confirmation of the info i was looking at, however you also say I'm not exp. which is true and frankly I'd never consider AAS as a viable option for anything other then what I want to use it for here. some links to the Core info I need to be aware of/learn before I do this 'mild' run ( AAS is NOT a small topic..).

I guess this might also be better placed in the right section of the forum too since it's moved away from PH..