Cycle Time! Test E, NPP, EQ

[Tbills02]

Been awhile since I've been active here but am getting ready to run a cycle that I haven't seen around much. The Cycle is as follows per week

Week 1-16 Test E 500MG
Week 1-12 NPP 400MG
Week 1-16 EQ 600MG

I have Arimidex on hand and taking P5P for prolactin but also have caber if things get to crazy along with some Cialis in case of dreaded Deca Dick

I did my second injection today of some gear that I made myself from raws. Zero PIP but I did overdose the NPP so it has been crashing every three days but thats an easy fix for me. I have a coach who is helping as this cycle will be an attempt to recomp and possible loose a few pounds of fat as well.

Now for current stats I'm 25 208lbs at 15.7% BF (Bod Pod tested)
Squat: 445 to 90degrees 385 if all the way in the hole
Deadlift: 445 sumo (any advise on how to get this over my squat I don't see many guys who are even and my squat even tends to get stronger then my deadlift even thought I do it sumo style) and 385 conventional
Bench: 285

For rountine due to being able to recover fast I'm on a 6 day a week Push, Pull, Legs, Rest, Repeat. Maintence calories on gear seem to increase for me so I'm starting at 3200 and will work with my coach accordingly. I use a bioelectric scales to keep track of BF% (it currently says im 16.4 so not to crazy far off and is great for reference). Fats will stay low with most of my intake being carbs (jasmine rice is my life) and around 260g of protein (chicken lean ground beef mostly). I run 1.5-3 miles ever morning(gotta keep my young hunting Brittany spaniel happy and in shape) and will throw in HITT cardio post workout if nessacary.

I'll post my first couple of workouts after this one once I grab my training log out of the car. I will also be taking a spring break down to Mexico for 5 days in the middle of this cycle which will obviously interupt my pinning and will be when I drop the NPP. I am a little worried about appetite on EQ but I'm pretty strict and tend to fast around 12 hours after post workout meal to a late breakfast (would love some vet input on it though as just how intense the hunger can be).

Cant wait to start this journey would love some of ya'll input (and no this is not my first cycle)

 

[Tbills02]

I'm just going to do tonights workout as going through everything else would make these first couple post wayyyy to long

Pull day to today

Dynamic warmup with rowing and active stretching
Deadlift(yes I deadlift on pull day not legs shoot me)
375 3x5
395 1x5, 1x4

Lat pull-down
120 1x15
140 3x12

One arm hammer row
180 3x12, 1x10

Curl Machine
95 3x12

rear delt flys
90 3x 15

DB curls
40lbs 4x8

Finisher on curls
25, 20, 15, 12.5, 10 (till it burns like hell)

any input on variations for pull day would be great. Not feeling much from the gear yet. Body is feeling good and strong though and nutrition was on point today. Not to much else to report as of now. Any questions or comments would love to hear them/answer them.
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[Afizz]

I'm just going to do tonights workout as going through everything else would make these first couple post wayyyy to long

Pull day to today

Dynamic warmup with rowing and active stretching
Deadlift(yes I deadlift on pull day not legs shoot me)
375 3x5
395 1x5, 1x4

Lat pull-down
120 1x15
140 3x12

One arm hammer row
180 3x12, 1x10

Curl Machine
95 3x12

rear delt flys
90 3x 15

DB curls
40lbs 4x8

Finisher on curls
25, 20, 15, 12.5, 10 (till it burns like hell)

any input on variations for pull day would be great. Not feeling much from the gear yet. Body is feeling good and strong though and nutrition was on point today. Not to much else to report as of now. Any questions or comments would love to hear them/answer them.
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Hello! Following your log. Good luck with everything. Very interested to see your results. How tall are you? What’s your cycle history? If you don’t mind answering.

Do you plan on competing?

I’m starting a similar cycle in 6 weeks. 600mg/wk test E, 300mg/wk EQ, w/ a 4 wk Test prop/dbol kickstart - for a total of 16 weeks so we’re in the same realm. Would love to hear your feedback on the EQ.

Also my 2c on your pull day... Back is my strongest muscle group, so I feel qualified enough to comment on your back day. Stick with the “old school” shit. It works. The lat pulldowns, and deadlifts are solid. I also DL on back day.

If I’m reading correctly, you’re doing 3 movements for your back? That’s simply not enough imho.

Incorporate barbell Rows, T Bar Rows, Cable Rows w/ varying grips/angles, DB rows, Pull Ups, Lat Extensions, and shrugs. The hammer row machine, I also love, but use it as a pumper towards the end of your workout after hitting all of the staple free weight movements. Remember all of these free weight movements each have several dffferent angles in which they can be executed. Make sure you’re taking full advantage of all of them and develop a great back. Remember, shows are won from the back.

 

[Tbills02]

Sorry i tried to get everything in that initial post I'm 5'9 (and a half on a good day) I have run Test E and Test E Deca cycle previously.

Competing is something i want to do one day but not after this cut I still have work to do before I'll feel comfortable on stage

I agree with your idea of getting more volume on back day. Honestly my form broke down on my last set of deadlifts and taxed my lowerback so I stuck to supported exercise to give my lower back a break then just didn't go back and actually hit my back with that "old school" shit. I love DB, seal and T bar rows to try and hit the back in a couple different ways.

I'm doing legs today so I'll probably be covered in sweat by the time I get home. I'll keep you all posted on how it goes later tonight.

 

[oldmusclemike]

Hello OP thanks for your post. I am having trouble understanding your goal for this cycle. If you can post a picture that would be good.
I just want to add back years ago, I did a lot of a wide grip Barbell bent rows and wide cable pull downs. Another was Pull-ups moderate width. I also hung a plate (45 Lb) with a belt n chain. lol and narrow seated rows. For me the bent rows hit a lot of different muscles. It was an all out free standing exercise. WE would stand on the bench, narrow footage, Ha :dance:
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Question , do you have a steady partner ?

Good Luck, OMM<

 

[Tbills02]

I'm trying to recomp with body com********** I'd like to stay around 200lbs but drop 4-5% BF

And steady partner? girlfriend yes. Workout partner no haha

I'll post some pics after work today.

 

[Tbills02]

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These are both similar pictures I know but they are the only ones I have saved right now

 

[Tbills02]

Alright so today was leg day. I know i mentioned i tweaked my back deadlifting yesterday and let me tell you its gonna need a few days break to recover as I wasn;t able to squat real heavy tonight.

But into the workout:
back squat
315x8, 385x5, 405x2, and 335 2x8

leg press on the sled
755 4x12

superset:
Leg extions with a sqeeze at the top
160lbs 4x12
Standing single leg hamstring curls
55 4X10

Hack squat sled
225x15, 295 3x12

BD RDL
100s each hand 4x12

Back was acting up as i mentioned but I worked-out in long sleeves and a hoodie and let me tell you I was sweating hard. I don't think anything has really kicked in yet but I'm pushing myself hard getting ready for it. I may rest tommorrow and spend some time with the girl or might just go into Push day(since it won't put much strain on my back) then break before my second back day this week.

 

[Tbills02]

Another day another workout. Today was a push workout with a focus on shoulders and went as followed

Seated DB shoulder press
75db 4x5
80db 1x4

Flat DB bench
90db 1x5
95db 3x5
100db 1x4

Barbell Push press
135 1x12, 2x10, 1x8

Tri Rope pushdown
120lbs 4x12 slow concentrated reps

Lateral Raises
25lbs 3x12

Incline DB press
65db 4x12

Upright DB rows
40s 4x10

Cable lateral raise
15lbs 4x12

Dips w/ 25lbs plate (I was gassed at this point so kept the weight light)
4x12


Felt okay today. Wasn't super motivated going into the gym but still got a really good lift in. The tempo was a little slow for me but was still moving good weight getting a decent sweat on. If anyone has any input would love to hear it!

 

[Afizz]

You asked for feedback - here it is. Everyone’s body is built differently, so take this with a grain of salt.

First, the good. Your squat numbers look great. Assuming that’s good form, on a good controlled, deep squat. Good job!

The back “tweak”.. are we talking GOOD pain or BAD pain? Good pain - great, the dead’s are working. Stretch, WARM UP PROPERLY/THOROUGHLY ON THE DAYS FOLLOWING.

Bad pain? Rest. Stretch. Soak and massage. Don’t seriously injure yourself because you’re overly invested in a cycle.

On your push day. Shoulders before bench? You’re playing a dangerous game imo. Pre exhausting your shoulders prior to heavy/intense bench is high risk to reward ratio.

Looks like you’re lifting good weight on DB press with the 90s and 100s. Consider a lighter warm up before hitting your pectoral movements. You can hit the same weight, or close to, for more reps thus more volume which equals better pump and imo a greater gain at a more preferable risk:reward ratio.

 

[oldmusclemike]

You asked for feedback - here it is. Everyone***8217;s body is built differently, so take this with a grain of salt.

First, the good. Your squat numbers look great. Assuming that***8217;s good form, on a good controlled, deep squat. Good job!

The back ***8220;tweak***8221;.. are we talking GOOD pain or BAD pain? Good pain - great, the dead***8217;s are working. Stretch, WARM UP PROPERLY/THOROUGHLY ON THE DAYS FOLLOWING.

Bad pain? Rest. Stretch. Soak and massage. Don***8217;t seriously injure yourself because you***8217;re overly invested in a cycle.

On your push day. Shoulders before bench? You***8217;re playing a dangerous game imo. Pre exhausting your shoulders prior to heavy/intense bench is high risk to reward ratio.

Looks like you***8217;re lifting good weight on DB press with the 90s and 100s. Consider a lighter warm up before hitting your pectoral movements. You can hit the same weight, or close to, for more reps thus more volume which equals better pump and imo a greater gain at a more preferable risk:reward ratio.

First OP want to apologize for my not getting back sooner. The photos tel me that you are looking good with a solid base to begin cutting. Your are definitely working hard.

You can definitely loose 4% body fat but I think with your diet you will need some cardio, or a least more then you do. As you did try to sweating (like pig, ) but the problem with that is mostly water is lost. You still need to BURN fat tissue. I found that loose my BF% it was for me more advantageous.

OMM

 

[Tbills02]

The back pain is something I have dealt with before it just from not training my lower back and My first cycle i went from 175lbs to 190lbs and bumped my dealift up so much my spinal rector couldn't keep up so i have to be careful not to overload them. I did overload them and its an uncomfortable soreness that will subside in a few days if I give it a break.

So i started this long a little late in the week that was my second push day. The first push day is more chest focused with shoulder and second push day is shoulder focused with some chest. It is a good balance for me. I do know that on my second push day i should focus more on rep with chest since i work for strength on my chest the first push day, there is just something so tempting about pushing the 100db that i struggle to pass up haha.

 

[Tbills02]

I already dropped some calories (800 down from my bulk) but you think more steady state (I'm doing 1.5-2.0 miles a day at 8minute pace) or should i do more of a HITT cardio to try to burn that fat tissue? I've also heard of people using Yohimbine for fasted cardio anyone have experience with that? I currently run Ephdra from BronkAid 2 or 3 times a week because it allows me to run a little better do to increase in oxygen I'm able to take in with it currently being pretty cold outside.

 

[Tbills02]

And im kidding blowing this up right now I know but wanted to keep you all posted.

Someone brought donuts into work today (apple fritters to be specific) and I couldnt help myself to one...and one become two, so i cut carbs from my Lunch today to help recoup the calories (I know not ideal but hey gotta live every once in awhile). Coach wasn't too happy so we will be running damage control with only a cup of jasmin rice with dinner as well and keeping my night shake carb free along with greek yogurt without fruit to help control for the large carlorie increase as well (why do i do this to myself (facepalm)). Today will be an off day from training, I played football this morning even though it was 28 degree and went for a short mile run after work. The rest of tonight might include a couple beers and just relax with the GF watching Netflix. I love all the feedback hope this keeps my motivated and accountable during this cycle. Also i injected today and my NPP keeps crashing but I won;t bore everyone with the home brew stuff.

 

[keldon]

Looking forward to this, good luck!

 

[Tbills02]

Today was a very good back session. Also i weighed in today down to 202 from 208. A lot of this is just simple from dropping a late night meal but according to my at home scale BF% has gone from 16.8 to 16.4 so looks like some progress is already being made in the first week.

Back day went a little something like this

Lat Pull downs
140 2x12
1601x10
180 1x6

T bar rows
135 2x10
160 2x10

Bent over barbell row
185 3x8 (lower back got fatigued and could go heavier or more reps due to it)

Lat focused pull ups
3x8
1x6

one arm hammer plate loaded rows
90 1x15
100 3x12

superset w, machine curls
95 4x12

Deadlift
315 3x10

power shrugs (also called cheater shrugs)
315 4x15

Incline curls
20 1x15
25 2x12
30 1x8

Hammer curls
30 2x12
35 2x12


I dont know if anything has really kicked in. I know the NPP should have but im honestly not feeling a whole lot from it. Could this be because the Test E and EQ havent kicked in yet? or is a week just not enough to have high enough blood values? Still a really great workout if anyone has and advise I'd gladly take it this pull day was way better after taking the feedback fromt he forum.

 

[Afizz]

The back day looks solid! Good work!

The NPP/test may not feel “kicked in” yet but answering your question, your levels are up. From the first shot they started rising and have risen significantly above natural levels. Don’t short change yourself because you’re not feeling it yet. Train hard and EAT.

Good luck! Keep us posted!

 

[wacoach]

Thanks for the details in this log. Keep it going please. Some of us are following and cheering you on. Good luck.

 

[Tbills02]

So today is my second Leg day of the week. I normally dont go as hard on this as my legs are already a pretty massive size compared to the rest of my body. Instead i did interval sprints on a quater mile track for 1.5 miles then gassers on the football field till I thought I was going to puke. According to my phone I ran 3.2 miles. Leg day did go a little something like this though

Squats
135 1x20
225 2x12
285 2x12

Hack squat sled (I work the bottom portion only on this because out of the hole is my weak point on squats my legs try to cave inward)
285 4x12

Single leg DB squats (one leg up on a bench DB in both hands)
35db 3x10

Superset leg extions and hamstring curls (didn't write down the weight today i was exhasuted)
To failure around 12-15 reps 4 sets

Like i said this is my lighter Leg day and one i dont focus to much on growth and more on getting a good pump and some endurance.

Also last night I DD for a group of friends so I had two beers over 6 hours. Trying to keep my diet clean as possible while still not being in a real competition prep so I let myself still live a normal life. I meal prepped about 12lbs of chick today and 24cups of jasmine rice(its my very favorite carb) I also did some lean ground beef for pre workout meals. If anyone is interested in diet I can log that here...? havent seen many people do it and I dont want this log to be to crazy long

 

[Afizz]

Hack squat sled (I work the bottom portion only on this because out of the hole is my weak point on squats my legs try to cave inward)

havent seen many people do it and I dont want this log to be to crazy long

If your legs are wavering in or out when squatting, strengthen the hips.

Log however you choose. It’s more for you than anyone else. Keeps you accountable. Good looking out bring the DD. Hope you were able to consume a meal or two over those 6 hours.