I agree with spartie if this is your first cycle you would be best running test only or run with 3 -4 weeks of dbol and add deca. Thats what I ran my first cycle and loved it, cant go wrong with test/dbol/deca. No need to run dbol for long periods its to hard on you, I no this dick in the gym who ran dbol for 16weeks. He is off now but he has lost a shit load of weight and when I asked him about his post cycle therapy (pct) he didnt have a clue what I was on about. He didnt even no what clomid or nolva was. And this guy is supossed to be selling gear aswell, he hasnt got a fuckin clue. God knows what his insides look like ha ha.