Dbol / Zams

Not something I would personally do (I think it would be kinda hard on the liver) but I definately think you would grow... I would rather see you do 10 weeks with the 35mg of dbol the first 4 weeks then the last 4 weeks through in the Zams....of course along with 500mg of test a week.... hypothetically speaking of course..
 
I dont like it much either...I think its too much for the liver and blood levels throughout the day are going to be really shaky.

How about prop/susp/winny (50/50/50)? Susp can match dbol for size, and you wouldnt have the liver problem (less overall oral mgs)
 
ready2explode said:
I dont like it much either...I think its too much for the liver and blood levels throughout the day are going to be really shaky.

How about prop/susp/winny (50/50/50)? Susp can match dbol for size, and you wouldnt have the liver problem (less overall oral mgs)

I agree with thefantom1 and ready.........to much for the liver. I would rather choose a test and do it with the zams.

Prop to cut
Susp to bulk
 
D-bol and Zambonsn are both aa17, too much on the liver IMO.
And it is not a very good cycle talking about gains.
If you want to use both, I'd use a good test base and do d-bol first 3 weeks and Winstrol (winny) the last 3 on a 8 week cycle.
 
I was undecided on which test to use, BUT there will be some form of test run throughuot the cycle...most likely prop. I a mnot a hug fan sust (too much water retantion), I am on enth currerntly, prop has always had great results, cyp is next on list to try...I am about to switch the enth to cyp on my current cycle...my gf and I crushed most of my enth amps fooloing around...so I picked up cyp, as it was available yesterday.

Seems everyone agrees no more than 4 weeks in a row on dbol...

So how does this look: 10 week cycle

Prop 100mg/ed (week1-10)
dbol 35mg/ed (week1-4)
zams 50 mg/ed (week 6-10)

Look better...I am trying to figure out the best combo to use with dbol as Ihave never used it before but I am not looking to put on 25 lbs then have to trim it down...I want some bf increase, but primarily lbm is how I like to put on weight, slow with quality...I am open to other combinations, but want top try dbol in the mix...thanks for the all the suggestions...
 
biganth said:
Stock up on those Zambons........they are stopping production on them soon.... :(

I wish I could tell you how many I bought, i am not sure if the mods would edit it and the price I paid...but I was given a rare opportunity to buy a shit load...two gallons size baggies full of zams, you can make a guess at the total number, but at the price my source offered them I couldn't pass them up, I bought everyone he had... I have enough for to us throughout my cycles for a LOOOOONG time.
 
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