Deca/Test E cycle help?

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Thehammer165

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hello im thinking about getting sum gear and i wanted a lil help on what to do lol but first lemme tell you my story...this isnt my first time trying steroids i experienced my first cycle at 16(yes was young dumb retarded didnt know absolutely nothing about steroids at all except from what i was told by person i got it from) i did 12 weeks of Test P and Eq didnt know anything about post cycle therapy (pct) until just recently so what i did was my final few weeks month i wud slowly bring the dosage

of the test down to try and bring my natural levels back up, never had a problem everythign returned to normal but def lost sum gains, didnt try steroids again til i was 18 where i just did test p for 16wks(again no post cycle therapy (pct) just tapering off the final weeks) i was very unhappy by the gains i lost i stopped working out got fat became a drunken slob lost my ambition at the height of it i my stats were 5'10 210lbs(fat beer belly) lol


but i realized my life wasnt going anywhere and decided to do somethign about it so i thought of going into pro wrestling its always been a dream of mine and i thought hey why not ive been sober off alcohol for almost 11mos switched my whole eating patterns and my entire fluid intake has been ONLY water yes, ive been drinking only water for almost a year dont ask me why but all i can say is i feel 1000x better than i ever did


im a nice 185lbs im 23 years old and ive been working out on and off since i was 13 but with spirts of 6 to 8 mos hard too 4mos off back to a year hard then 6mos off but my whole GOAL is for striclty 'looks" obviously im gunna get stronger but thats only a bonus to me my whole focus is a nice chiseled defined look ive been consistent for 10mos about and i already know i plateaued out so ive been doing ALOT of research this time around because i really wanna get the full effect of the juice and do it the right way and my conclusion is 12weeks of test e/deca followed by post cycle therapy (pct) of clomid(3wks later) and nolvadex(ed)


also i got a slight case of puffy nipples will that be a prob? def wud like your guys input on this and trust me when i tell you ive been doing tons of research this time and i feel this place cud help me out 1 more thing i have 2 bottles of EQ the caps are sealed and everything the only thing is that there expired june/08 ive gotten mixed reviews on this 50% says trash it 50% says theres nothing wrong it just loses potency so i wanna know what your guys take on it thanks fellas
 
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Thehammer165 said:
hello im thinking about getting sum gear and i wanted a lil help on what to do lol but first lemme tell you my story...this isnt my first time trying steroids i experienced my first cycle at 16(yes was young dumb retarded didnt know absolutely nothing about steroids at all except from what i was told by person i got it from) i did 12 weeks of Test P and Eq didnt know anything about post cycle therapy (pct) until just recently so what i did was my final few weeks month i wud slowly bring the dosage of the test down to try and bring my natural levels back up, never had a problem everythign returned to normal but def lost sum gains, didnt try steroids again til i was 18 where i just did test p for 16wks(again no post cycle therapy (pct) just tapering off the final weeks) i was very unhappy by the gains i lost i stopped working out got fat became a drunken slob lost my ambition at the height of it i my stats were 5'10 210lbs(fat beer belly) lol but i realized my life wasnt going anywhere and decided to do somethign about it so i thought of going into pro wrestling its always been a dream of mine and i thought hey why not ive been sober off alcohol for almost 11mos switched my whole eating patterns and my entire fluid intake has been ONLY water yes, ive been drinking only water for almost a year dont ask me why but all i can say is i feel 1000x better than i ever did im a nice 185lbs im 23 years old and ive been working out on and off since i was 13 but with spirts of 6 to 8 mos hard too 4mos off back to a year hard then 6mos off but my whole GOAL is for striclty 'looks" obviously im gunna get stronger but thats only a bonus to me my whole focus is a nice chiseled defined look ive been consistent for 10mos about and i already know i plateaued out so ive been doing ALOT of research this time around because i really wanna get the full effect of the juice and do it the right way and my conclusion is 12weeks of test e/deca followed by post cycle therapy (pct) of clomid(3wks later) and nolvadex(ed) also i got a slight case of puffy nipples will that be a prob? def wud like your guys input on this and trust me when i tell you ive been doing tons of research this time and i feel this place cud help me out 1 more thing i have 2 bottles of EQ the caps are sealed and everything the only thing is that there expired june/08 ive gotten mixed reviews on this 50% says trash it 50% says theres nothing wrong it just loses potency so i wanna know what your guys take on it thanks fellas
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eq does not come in caps...
 
lol i know that, by caps i meant the tops i have 2 bottles of eq they;ve never been opened...but the help i was really loooking for was about deca test e nolvadex and clomid i have sum on standby that i can grab anytime i just wanna make sure its the right cycle for what im tryin to accomplished im 180-185lbs 23 years old 5'10 with a body fat of 16% im diet is clean my ONLY fluid intake is water and im an aspiring pro wrestler any help wud def mean alot
 
First off I would suggest adding some separation to your post it is a wall of text and difficult to follow and read. Separate into 4 or 6 chunks or when a new topic begins.

You can expect some sides while on even with a Aromatase inhibitor (AI), if a lump development occurs then letro will be the compound to use to get rid of it.

Its really good that you got yourself out of that rut.
 
H 3 L L S M A N said:
First off I would suggest adding some separation to your post it is a wall of text and difficult to follow and read. Separate into 4 or 6 chunks or when a new topic begins.

You can expect some sides while on even with a Aromatase inhibitor (AI), if a lump development occurs then letro will be the compound to use to get rid of it.

Its really good that you got yourself out of that rut.
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yea i apologize for that i fixed the post lol....thats also another question i wanted to ask i kinda have a lump on the left side of my nipple u can def feel it it doesnt really hurt unless i press down really hard on it cud this just be from the couple times i juiced without pct? cuz i showed my family it and they kinda think its cancer (hope not) jw what your take on it is
 
Well glad you were able to get sober...and you say you are 23 and have done plenty of research? If you have done the slightest bit if research on Deca you would know that Nolva and Deca are like oil and water...they do not mix!!!

Secondly, you are too young for AAS, but being that you have done two cycles since age of 16 and never did any post cycle therapy (pct) makes me want to think you have already done some irreversable damage to your testes...when is the last time you have had bloodwork done?

Third, before you even attempt this cycle, which I would drop the Deca all together, you need to do more research and educate yourself better on On-cycle Support and post cycle therapy (pct), because really you don't know much at all...just being real here bro!
 
MuscleAddiction said:
Well glad you were able to get sober...and you say you are 23 and have done plenty of research? If you have done the slightest bit if research on Deca you would know that Nolva and Deca are like oil and water...they do not mix!!!

Secondly, you are too young for AAS, but being that you have done two cycles since age of 16 and never did any PCT makes me want to think you have already done some irreversable damage to your testes...when is the last time you have had bloodwork done?

Third, before you even attempt this cycle, which I would drop the Deca all together, you need to do more research and educate yourself better on On-cycle Support and PCT, because really you don't know much at all...just being real here bro!
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no i hear ya man lol im just tryin to get sum knowledge ya kno...but i asked a bunch of body builders and more of them sed with a cycle like that you wud def take nolva every day then take the clomid 3 weeks after ur last cycle of deca
 
Hey bro, just to save you a little time, clomid and nolva are generally used for PCT, not AI's.
exestane (aromasin) is generally used as an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for test and caber or prami for deca.
Just do a search for Aromatase inhibitor (AI) protocol and PCT protocol.

But first of all, make sure your diet is in check.
Hope this helps, take it easy.
(read,read,read).
 
killboy said:
Hey bro, just to save you a little time, clomid and nolva are generally used for PCT, not AI's.
exestane (aromasin) is generally used as an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for test and caber or prami for deca.
Just do a search for Aromatase inhibitor (AI) protocol and PCT protocol.
But first of all, make sure your diet is in check.
Hope this helps, take it easy.
(read,read,read).
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Exactly...thank you. Deca will shut you down hard, and you do not use Nolva for any 19nors...you will have the worst libido problems! You will already have Deca dick, but caber or prami will help combat that.

Don't listen to whoever is telling you this crap...do your own research and stop listening to your bros at the gym!!!
 
well i figured this is wat ill do

week 1-10
test e 500mg
week 1-9
deca 400mg
week 12 -15
nolvadex 40mg first day then 20/20/20 etc
clomid 100mg first day then 50/50/50 etc

as and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) im gunna use proviron 50mg daily

as i sed before i do have a sensitivity to puffy nipples lol what do ya think of a cycle like this one
 
Argh! Did you not understand the words coming out of my mouth? Deca + Nolva = No...no!!! I'm done...have fun, if you have a girlfriend, go tell her to find another guy to fuck her while you are on cycle, because yours will be out of commission for a while!

Enjoy your cycle!
 
MuscleAddiction said:
Argh! Did you not understand the words coming out of my mouth? Deca + Nolva = No...no!!! I'm done...have fun, if you have a girlfriend, go tell her to find another guy to fuck her while you are on cycle, because yours will be out of commission for a while!

Enjoy your cycle!
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hey bro i respect ur opinion 100% n obviously im gunna dig deeper into it i just want a cple other bros to post their opinion/experience to see which option out weighs the other but what i wud like to know is if i replace nolva with caber how many mgs shud i be taking?
 
Thehammer165 said:
well i figured this is wat ill do

week 1-10
test e 500mg
week 1-9
deca 400mg
week 12 -15
nolvadex 40mg first day then 20/20/20 etc
clomid 100mg first day then 50/50/50 etc

as and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) im gunna use proviron 50mg daily

as i sed before i do have a sensitivity to puffy nipples lol what do ya think of a cycle like this one
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If this is your first cycle in 5 years why don't you try one compound, test. Skip the deca for now, and run the test alone for 12-16 weeks somewhere in the 300-500 mg per week range.
MuscleAddiction said:
Argh! Did you not understand the words coming out of my mouth? Deca + Nolva = No...no!!! I'm done...have fun, if you have a girlfriend, go tell her to find another guy to fuck her while you are on cycle, because yours will be out of commission for a while!

Enjoy your cycle!
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Why can he not run the deca & test? Am I missing something here?
 
TryinToGetStrong said:
If this is your first cycle in 5 years why don't you try one compound, test. Skip the deca for now, and run the test alone for 12-16 weeks somewhere in the 300-500 mg per week range.

Agree...better choice


Why can he not run the deca & test? Am I missing something here?
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Didn't say he couldn't...told him he can't use Nolva with Deca, do not go together at all! He can run test/deca all he wants, just build the right PCT around the compounds he is using.
 
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another question i had was about the 2 bottles of expired EQ that i have label says June/08 the bottles still have the tops on sealed never been opened....i heard it loses potency after that long but doesnt cause any harm, wud like more info
 
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