Decided to change my first cycle to test e + tren

[kamikaze]

19nor like deca and tren do not mix with nolva. If and when you add one of those compounds to a future cycle it's not recommended to take nolva.

You are smart man for reading and taking advice from the vets. Good luck with your cycle.

 

[Atomsk]

Tren is NOT a good steroid to use for your first time. I would recommend Dbol and Test. I did this and was Very impressed with the gains. Or substitute Dbol with Anavar. Run the Anavar for 6-8 weeks and the test for 10-12 weeks. you'll like the way you look.

also make sure you run a post cycle! so Nolva 40/30/30/20 and/or Clomid 100/100/50/50

 

[hansbrolo]

you should not be using it even on second cycle, and tren IS over hyped you are expecting too much from this steroid and most likly steroid in general (even i did when i started out). you have never done a cycle so dont understand steroids DONT do that much, most of the work IS YOU. it would take years of aas use for any decent gains, so dont worry about 1 or 2 cycles. if you think you are goign to get buff with a couple cycles you are in lala land. if your in for long haul do it right, if not dont bother.

your wrong for doing tren on first cycle or even 4th or 5th cycle and it can be with some of the worst side effects to the point people cant sleep, are depressed, tired and cant ever use tren again. some will sware it off for life!
you are reading drug profiles and people hyping tren up. Bad idea.vv(read ADVICE from KNWON members to YOUR situation.
you have no idea what you are doing and NO ONE is going to agree with you here, if thats what you are looking for.

good luck

hope you and are not a tard like 90% of the noob people looking to hear what they want.

good advice here. i foolishly thought i would become a beast after 1 cycle. doesn't work that way bro. i made good gains but you still need to put in the work in the gym and in the kitchen. doing test e for 12 weeks will yield great, solid gains as long as your diet/training are on point.

 

[1eye]

I'm glad I read this. I have never done a cycle before and I'm about to do my first. The person I'm getting it from was going to get me to use test E 400mg once a week with tbol oral. The use nolvadex and clomid as a pct. From the sounds of it though I should leave the tbol out?

 

[bigben66]

It's a three year old thread buddy...

If you have 1st cycle issues - research them thoroughly in the sticky section on the home page

Then start your own thread so we can help you.

BigBen