ZEROFEAR66
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What would you guys recommend in terms of elevating testosterone without ramping up DHT levels? Im looking to get a bit leaner and maybe dry out a bit. Im 225 at about 12%BF
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DHT conversion
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ZEROFEAR66
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No one? Ok,how about PH's that have a low or no conversion rate to DHT?
MattPorter
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You must have scalp issues right? Because DHT will aid in getting you leaner and drying you out nicely.
The hormones in AndroLean (super-11 and 7oxo) would accomplish this goal and also AndroEnhance.
-Matt
MattPorter
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ZERO -- did you investigate the AndroLean or AndroEnhance??? Stay away from strong androgens -- use nizoral 2%
-Matt
ZEROFEAR66
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Thanks Matt Im going to check those out. Yea I HAD scalp issues ie hair loss so I got grafts and I dont want to do anything to F those up...lol. Thanks for the info!!!
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ZEROFEAR66
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No, the MPB was due to taking test early in my "career" lol..once I stopped it...the hair loss stopped. Besides there are more effective meds out there..but I was young and dumb...
I did some research on the propecia and didnt like the side effects.
ZEROFEAR66
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Well one good thing about you having mpb is you know you have a shorter CAG repeat
Good point.
Some more info on AR
Alterations in the AR gene are associated with an increased risk of androgenetic alopecia (also known as male-pattern baldness in men and female-pattern baldness in women). The variations result from small changes in the number or types of DNA building blocks (base pairs) that make up the AR gene. These genetic changes appear to be most frequent in men with hair loss that begins at an early age. Researchers believe that AR gene variations may increase the activity of androgen receptors in the scalp. Although androgenetic alopecia is related to the effects of androgens on hair growth, it remains unclear how changes in the AR gene increase the risk of patterned hair loss in men and women with this condition.
ZEROFEAR66
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Well one good thing about you having mpb is you know you have a shorter CAG repeat
Some more info on CAG and AR...
The AR gene provides instructions for making a protein called an androgen receptor. Androgens are hormones (such as testosterone) that are important for normal male sexual development before birth and during puberty. Androgen receptors allow the body to respond appropriately to these hormones. The receptors are present in many of the body's tissues, where they attach (bind) to androgens. The resulting androgen-receptor complex then binds to DNA and regulates the activity of androgen-responsive genes. By turning the genes on or off as necessary, the androgen receptor helps direct the development of male sexual characteristics. Androgens and androgen receptors also have other important functions in both males and females, such as regulating hair growth and sex drive.
In one region of the AR gene, a DNA segment known as CAG is repeated multiple times. This CAG segment is called a triplet or trinucleotide repeat. In most people, the number of CAG repeats in the AR gene ranges from fewer than 10 to about 36.
MattPorter
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Would you be interested in using Toco-8 for your scalp (BUT MOST notably for your overall health)?
Let me know if you want some and also any info on other products?
-Matt
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The bold is important, as their is a range of benefit to full spectrum vitamin e supplementation.
^^^Good opportunity there, have had many excellent reviews on Toco-8's ability to help with hair loss or thinning hair
ZEROFEAR66
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Sure I always love learning about supplements. Send me the info. Ive been researching C3G. Looks promising from what Ive read on PubMed.
Con, is cost/availability.
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Quick bump so Matt can catch this for you.
MattPorter
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Zerofear --- email me man.
matt.porter@primordialperformance.com
Only good things can come from toco-8
-matt
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Exactly. Highly underrated supplement. Unfortunately, these days unless it adds 10lbs to your frame, most just overlook health supplements.
Completely agree, given the many positive attributes it has it's hard to argue not to use it
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