Dislocated shoulder: Can Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) help?

[FreeMason]

Dislocated shoulder: Can HRT help?

Testosterone aids in the synthesis of protein which helps bodybuilders grow muscle.

Testosterone also speeds to sealing and maturing of bone growth plates.

I just dislocated my shoulder and I'm thinking about using Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) to help speed the recovery.

Anyone with experience or feedback on this?

 

[Irentat]

First, have you seen a doctor to understand fully what is going on with your shoulder? I advise not to self prescribe when you don't fully know what is going on in that joint.

A clarification on your growth plate statement: test does not stop the growth. The aromatization of test to estrogen and subsequently the estrogen itself will act to seal the plate. One of the reasons why women are generally not as tall as men.

Dislocation of the shoulder is related to ligament and tendon issues. If you choose the AAS route to help you out, I would look towards the ones that have proven collagen production and have research-based proof showing they speed recovery: Oxandrolone and Nandrolone. However, a cycle should include test to supplement the natty shutdown these two will cause.

 

[FreeMason]

Thanks for the response. I have not seen a doctor yet, it just happened yesterday when I took a bad fall while climbing. I popped the shoulder back in and finished the route.

I will see one as soon as possible, but this is my second dislocation.

Thanks for the suggestion on Oxandrolone and Nadrolone.

How long of a cycle is typical with these substances?

And how long should I wait before i start the cycle, in order to allow my shoulder to heal.

So, you're saying take some test cyp along with the oxandrolone because the oxandrolone will shut down my natural production of test? What dosage of Oxandrolone would be suggested?

 

[Irentat]

I personally think you are jumping the gun looking at AAS. Not because they won't help but because you need to know what is going on in that joint and blindly adding in something without knowing your situation could damage it more by overuse.

I have a lot of experience dealing with damaged joints. In the end here is what I would do: get an MRI done and take it to a prolotherapist that only does prolotherapy work in their practice. Prolotherapy is the art of rebuilding joints, look it up. If things are not torn bad and can skip surgery (most likely) then I would start a few rounds of prolotherapy to tighten the joint back up. At the same time, I would start a cycle of deca (nandrolone) and test along with a regimen of lifting that does not damage the joint but strengthens it.

That is what I would do based on past successes in healing my joints but you need to do more research and figure out what you are getting into. If you really want to heal correctly and permanently, you have to put in the time and learn what the body needs. You can start by looking at my log I have.

 

[cjw2021]

HGH would probably heal a joint better than testosterone - though both would help by increasing absorption of nutrients. HGH will negatively affect other hormones faster though. You practically need to be an endocrinologist before you start messing with this stuff here and there.

 

[RA64]

Testosterone aids in the synthesis of protein which helps bodybuilders grow muscle.

Testosterone also speeds to sealing and maturing of bone growth plates.

I just dislocated my shoulder and I'm thinking about using Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) to help speed the recovery.

Anyone with experience or feedback on this?

First of all if you have never run a cycle before, you are getting in way over your head.
The shoulder problem may turn out the be the least of your problems, starting Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) without any knowledge of everything involved.

 

[fleverglades]

First, have you seen a doctor to understand fully what is going on with your shoulder? I advise not to self prescribe when you don't fully know what is going on in that joint.

A clarification on your growth plate statement: test does not stop the growth. The aromatization of test to estrogen and subsequently the estrogen itself will act to seal the plate. One of the reasons why women are generally not as tall as men.

Dislocation of the shoulder is related to ligament and tendon issues. If you choose the AAS route to help you out, I would look towards the ones that have proven collagen production and have research-based proof showing they speed recovery: Oxandrolone and Nandrolone. However, a cycle should include test to supplement the natty shutdown these two will cause.

Dude - excellent - absolutely excellent explanation. I couldn't agree with you more. Nandrolone will help a little. I also agree with your later statement that testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is WAY after the MRI etc... GEt your MRI done and let us know what you are dealing with.

 

[FreeMason]

Ok, thank you for all the responses.

I met with the ortho surgeon and got an xray done. There's no fractures from what he can see and he tested out the rotator cuff strength and it was good. He was pretty surprised with how little damage there was.

I'll be meeting with another surgeon in the same practice to discuss a "capsulorraphy" on Monday. I guess I'll ask him to order an MRI.

I just don't want to do any type of surgery unless it's absolutely required.

I did ask the first doc about the fact that my doc wanted to put me on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and he said it shouldn't be a problem. But the guy was a younger doc and seemed like he was only interested in pushing me towards surgery.

Right now I'm just icing/heating it and keeping it demobilized.

 

[Irentat]

Dude - excellent - absolutely excellent explanation. I couldn't agree with you more. Nandrolone will help a little. I also agree with your later statement that testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is WAY after the MRI etc... GEt your MRI done and let us know what you are dealing with.

Thanks for the support. I did lots of research before jumping in and after I jumped in, I did even more.

FreeMason, Report back on the MRI. Glad you are getting one.

 

[cash]

to jump in here and not know exactly what is wrong......
I have had both my shoulders cut on. THe statement made that you are keeping it "demobilised" scares me a bit. Ice is your friend. You should be at least doing some pendulum swings multiple times a day at a minimum. You do not want any scar tissue to build up. Lots of videos on youtube etc. and do your research on the shoulder doc.
HGH definately helps recovery from the surgery but you would need to start it months prior.
Just my opinions and experience.

 

[FreeMason]

So, this was my second dislocation. The doctor advised me to keep it immobilized. He wanted to put me in a bulky, body sling.

However, my next doctor's visit from last Monday was pretty good. The pain and soreness had already majorly subsided. The doctor took a look at my old MRI from 3 years ago. There was no tearing of any tissues, some stretching, though.

He said there was no need to do a second MRI, I would see the same.

He only said I should get a Capsulorraphy done in order to tighten up my ligs and tendons.

So, I take it HGH or Androgel or Cyp won't have the effect of tightening back up my shoulder capsule or ligaments?

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On a separate note, off topic

I have 4 months worth of Androgel Ihaven't used yet and I am thinking about cycling for 4 weeks on the advice of my urologist.

What else should I take with it, and when I stop after 4 weeks, what should I take as a post cycle therapy (pct)? Clomid?

I am not familiar with any of the acronyms like Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), DHT and such.

Thanks for your help.

 

[Irentat]

So, this was my second dislocation. The doctor advised me to keep it immobilized. He wanted to put me in a bulky, body sling.

However, my next doctor's visit from last Monday was pretty good. The pain and soreness had already majorly subsided. The doctor took a look at my old MRI from 3 years ago. There was no tearing of any tissues, some stretching, though.

He said there was no need to do a second MRI, I would see the same.

He only said I should get a Capsulorraphy done in order to tighten up my ligs and tendons.

I will reiterate what I would do in your situation (from above):

I have a lot of experience dealing with damaged joints. In the end here is what I would do: get an MRI done (not doing but doc says nothing different) and take it to a prolotherapist that only does prolotherapy work in their practice. Prolotherapy is the art of rebuilding joints, look it up. If things are not torn bad and can skip surgery (most likely) then I would start a few rounds of prolotherapy to tighten the joint back up. At the same time, I would start a cycle of deca (nandrolone) and test along with a regimen of lifting that does not damage the joint but strengthens it.

Just do some research on it. Here is the beauty of Prolo: you get to live your life and not do surgery where you are immobile. Just be aware that the philosophy of recovery is different, and I am a firm believer in it. After prolo, you must move and use heat, quite the opposite of other docs. If it don't work, then do surgery. You are not out anything, except a few bucks.